Rubber hose replacement schedule

[Lunchbag]

Another thing in the SA series manual that got my attention was the statement that hydraulic hoses, fuel hoses, power steering hoses, radiator hoses, and air intake hoses should be replaced every 2 years. What a needy tractor. Does anyone do this?

 

[RickB]

Reasonable people don’t.

 

[jyoutz]

I only replace hoses when they leak.

 

[notaz3]

In my 50+ years around heavy equipment never heard of replacing hoses every two years. Always stuck with the idea that if a hose is leaking or showing signs of age it gets replaced. Know of some tractors with 15 year old hoses still running every harvest season.
Even with aircraft we had a seven year hose life.

 

[4570Man]

That’s stupid. Change them when they blow.

 

[RalphVa]

Still good on our 240D Benz at 26 years. These are just the radiator and heater hoses. No hydraulic hoses on it.

 

[arto98607]

Another thing in the SA series manual that got my attention was the statement that hydraulic hoses, fuel hoses, power steering hoses, radiator hoses, and air intake hoses should be replaced every 2 years. What a needy tractor. Does anyone do this?

Last winter I had a front end loader OEM hydraulic hose spring a small leak on a 1986 Ford 1310 with a Ford 770A loader.
Replaced all four in the same area.

35 years before failing.

 

[PILOON]

I only replace hoses when they leak.

As do most operators!

HOWEVER, many manuals tend to suggest shelf life for most rubber components. 5 year life is common. Actually even tires have date codes.
Cities and gov't's tend to live by those rules hence auctions for perfectly good items.
Our city renews trucks B4 5 years simply because inspection agencies tend to snag all those 'life dated' items and that would get very costly.
Examples are brake lines, hydraulic and coolant hoses. (and tires)

So private contractors get bargains every 5 years and bid on that same city's contracts with their old equipment. (LOL, barely used at that)
Often seen is a fully equipped 4-5 year old plow truck with 20,000 kms sold for 15-20% of new price.
OK, rusty but nothing that TLC and paint can't fix. (and hoses when and if needed)

 

[RickB]

Big difference between 6-10 year old tires on any highway vehicle and hoses on a tractor at a 2 year change interval.
Any sort of municipal or government owned vehicle or equipment takes the discussion far away from reality.

 

[jyoutz]

As do most operators!

HOWEVER, many manuals tend to suggest shelf life for most rubber components. 5 year life is common. Actually even tires have date codes.
Cities and gov't's tend to live by those rules hence auctions for perfectly good items.
Our city renews trucks B4 5 years simply because inspection agencies tend to snag all those 'life dated' items and that would get very costly.
Examples are brake lines, hydraulic and coolant hoses. (and tires)

So private contractors get bargains every 5 years and bid on that same city's contracts with their old equipment. (LOL, barely used at that)
Often seen is a fully equipped 4-5 year old plow truck with 20,000 kms sold for 15-20% of new price.
OK, rusty but nothing that TLC and paint can't fix. (and hoses when and if needed)

Tires are a safety issue. A loader lift arm hose is not.

 

[Sawyer Rob]

Tires are a safety issue. A loader lift arm hose is not.

Depends on what is under the loader!

SR

 

[RickB]

Depends on what is under the loader!

SR

Loader safety is not dependent on hose age. It's dependent on staying out from under loaders not properly supported.

 

[Sawyer Rob]

Loader safety is not dependent on hose age. It's dependent on staying out from under loaders not properly supported.

I didn't say "who", I said "what"... in reply to the statement made, that tires are a safety issue, loader hoses aren't... lol

SR

 

[RickB]

I didn't say "who", I said "what"... in reply to the statement made, that tires are a safety issue, loader hoses aren't... lol

SR

Loader safety isn't limited to keeping people uninjured.

 

[Sawyer Rob]

Exactly, that's why I consider both, hoses and tires, a safety issue!

SR

 

[RickB]

Exactly, that's why I consider both, hoses and tires, a safety issue!

SR

My point is a loader with anything important or valuable underneath a raised attachment should be secured by a safety prop and not simply a bunch of hoses no matter how old or new they are. All the word games notwithstanding.

 

[Lunchbag]

I'm glad there's a consensus that the hose replacement schedule is nonsense. However it's also disappointing because I would like to take the manual seriously, but statements like this make it pretty hard.

 

[fried1765]

As do most operators!

HOWEVER, many manuals tend to suggest shelf life for most rubber components. 5 year life is common. Actually even tires have date codes.
Cities and gov't's tend to live by those rules hence auctions for perfectly good items.
Our city renews trucks B4 5 years simply because inspection agencies tend to snag all those 'life dated' items and that would get very costly.
Examples are brake lines, hydraulic and coolant hoses. (and tires)

So private contractors get bargains every 5 years and bid on that same city's contracts with their old equipment. (LOL, barely used at that)
Often seen is a fully equipped 4-5 year old plow truck with 20,000 kms sold for 15-20% of new price.
OK, rusty but nothing that TLC and paint can't fix. (and hoses when and if needed)

Thankfully most countries of the world do not require the absurd inspections, or have the myriad of regulations that Canada has.
In Canada "big brother" watches over everything from cradle to grave!
Farting is allowed......but only with a permit!

 

[PILOON]

Tires are a safety issue. A loader lift arm hose is not.

Could be to a person that is underneath while servicing the engine.
However I was intending mainly to point out the the attitude of working by the book and CYA trends.
Also if ever an incident occurred that city union would go wild claiming recommended service was ignored. Only lawyers would win.

 

[4570Man]

Tires are a safety issue. A loader lift arm hose is not.

You realize it’s a tractor not a highway vehicle? Hoses pose a lot more safety hazards than a blown tire. At minimum someone could be drenched in hot oil. At worst they could suffer penetration injuries or eye injuries from the hot oil or be crushed by a falling loader. A blown tire could potentially cause a rollover but an inconvenience is much more likely.