rustoleum and durability

   / rustoleum and durability #1  

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My next project is to paint an older machine. I plan to use rustolem in the large spray cans. but have found in the past that it will dull and Id like something to possible spray over it so I can start with wax for protection and shine.
Ive heard of clear coat by have never used it,Is it a good choice for top coat?will it take wax? etc.
thanks.. Im dead set with the rustoleum paid and I can also touch it up later like I do my impliments.
 
   / rustoleum and durability #2  
If it helps, modern vehicles have a clear coat. Like you, I use rust oleum on my stuff. Never used a clear coat on it though. If you do, I would sure like to see the end result! LUTT
 
   / rustoleum and durability #3  
Do you have a paint sprayer? If so, buy it at HD or Lowes in the gallon can($25 ish)...I have found it's a much better quality than in the rattle can Rustoleum.
 
   / rustoleum and durability #4  
Do you have a paint sprayer? If so, buy it at HD or Lowes in the gallon can($25 ish)...I have found it's a much better quality than in the rattle can Rustoleum.

I've tried that with mixed results. What do you thin it with?
 
   / rustoleum and durability #5  
Don't know what type of paint you are referring to, but in spraying the Kubota urethane factory paint, which you can thin with mineral spirits, I finally bought some xylene, which is the preferred thinner, and man, what a better way to go! It slows down, slightly, the drying, and makes for easy coating and good leveling. I am an amateur painter, but I got great results. Any time I spray, it's my go-to thinner now. The pic is of a 6" sq. area, one coat, just as it came from the cheap spray gun. (you can see where I had masked off the surrounding fender...)

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   / rustoleum and durability #6  
I like rustoleum also. I recently cleaned and repainted a flail mower I bought. I bought a quart can of sail blue (very close to LS blue) and sprayed it on with a $15.00 HF spray gun. Thinned the paint a little bit before putting in the gun. I could have used the spray cans but this way was much quicker and did a nice job. I think rustoleum also has clear in a spray also but never tried it.
I also cleaned and sprayed the box blade I bought at the same time. The scarifiers were done in rustoleum gloss black from the spray can.
 

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   / rustoleum and durability #7  
When I have used that stuff it has lasted maybe 2 or 3 years IF that. Then it was back to RUST and CHIPS or nothing... sorry know ya are set on it but also know I'll never paint ANYTHING I intend to KEEP with it.
 
   / rustoleum and durability #8  
If you don't want to spend more money, Industrial enamel is hard to beat.

The problem with these paints is, the low quality solvents they use in them do not evaporate quickly, and they get trapped in the film when it skins over. In order for it to cure, (reach maximum hardness), you need to get all the solvents out.

When I had a spray booth, I could bake something I painted with Rustoleum in there, and after about 6 hrs. total at 160 degrees, it would get pretty hard.

Using the the proper amount of isocyanate hardener sometimes offered with industrial enamel systems, will help speed up the curing process.

Placing items in the sun for a good week will also do a good job of driving out those solvents.

Adding clear over your color, (if it's even available for industrial enamel, I do not believe it is), will trap more solvents under a thicker film, and probably result in softer paint in the end.

All auto paint companies have low end single stage urethane systems that are more expensive than Rustoleum, but not real expensive. And they will provide a much better quality finish.

Some Sherwin Williams Automotive stores sell AIC Industrial coatings For fleets. And it's pretty good stuff. Like industrial enamel, there is a limited color pallet. The paint is not expensive. The hardener is a little expensive, because, it only comes in quarts, or gallons. You can buy, and use nail polish remover, (acetate), for reducer. I did some jobs with it a few years ago, and was really surprised how good they looked. They have held their gloss very well.

These paint systems need to be used with the proper protective equipment, and mixed carefully, for best performance. Putting in extra hardener, does NOT make it harder.
 
   / rustoleum and durability #9  
I've had better luck with the taller "professional" rustoleum. It seems to dry much faster which would be consistent with what others have said about the cheaper thinner staying in the paint and causing it to dry slowly.

Instead of a airless sprayer you might have better luck with a "paint pot" setup with a spray gun that runs on compressed air. I'm sure there is a proper term but its' just an aluminum can that has a hose to hook to air and another that goes to a spray gun. Works good for smaller paint jobs.
 
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Thanks. I looked at My Lowes and found some of that.. safety blue. So I might go that route.I just wish that my local Lowes carried it also in rattle cans for touchup..
I've had better luck with the taller "professional" rustoleum. It seems to dry much faster which would be consistent with what others have said about the cheaper thinner staying in the paint and causing it to dry slowly.

Instead of a airless sprayer you might have better luck with a "paint pot" setup with a spray gun that runs on compressed air. I'm sure there is a proper term but its' just an aluminum can that has a hose to hook to air and another that goes to a spray gun. Works good for smaller paint jobs.
 

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