Rustoleum going???

[Bedlam]

Ive placed this thread under projects, because to me the last step in any project is a good coat of Rustoleum.
Well today I went first to my local Wal -Mart to get a gallon of OIL based Gloss Black paint.This reticular store was out of the Black, and had only some white. So I asked the clerk if they would be getting and in, and he said no, they weren't going to be "stocking it anymore'.
I left, and went the next closest Wal Mart store to buy the same thing. This store had NONE, not even quarts.The Paint Dept Manager, told me that they no longer carry it. And the reason was that it was bad for the environment and that they weren't going to be producing it anymore.
Also a hazard to sore in the store. (HMM almost next to hundreds of quarts of motor oil and other things)
I left, and went to Lowe's who had a full stock of it. Grabbed a gallon, and it only took me three tries and some help to get the only self serve machine to work.
Apparently Lowe's makes you type in the last four numbers of the card.
(possibly for security).
I sure hope rustoleum isn't going by the side, I used it to paint equipment, as well as cars.
I myself wonder if it was thatRustoleum didn't cave to the price setting that Wal Mart does to the suppliers. If that is the case. I would applaud them.But I dint think we will ever really know why Wal Mart isn't going to carry it.
I look forward to any info anyone might have with respect to this.
Allan

 

[swines]

Why is it every time someone can't find something at a store they question if the company is going out of business? There is absolutely no logic behind this.

In all probability, Walmart (or whomever) got a better wholesale price from the paint supplier they're now distributing and that's why Walmart is selling it. The clerk is wrong...is not an expert...and probably only learned about paint last week when s/he started stocking the shelves in the paint section.

Rustoleum has a complete line of water based products to meet California VOC requirements. If you don't believe me - take a look at a real industrial supplier like Grainger's instead of the local cheap shop, big box supplier.

By the way...do you know you can still purchase lead paint? I have lead primer in my paint cabinet right now. It's still used for certain marine applications (bilges for example).

 

[MadReferee]

I use Rustoleum Protective Enamel for all my tractor projects including forks, landscape rakes, dethatcher, carryalls, etc. With a good primer on a clean base, the RPE will take a beating and come back for more.

BTW, they are not going out of business. Wal-Mart just made them a counter offer on pricing that they could not accept. Lowe's and probably Home Depot and your local hardware store still carry it.

 

[Mighty Dodge]

I've had good luck with Ace Hardware enamels and primers. Use it on my implements and on my antique tractors, holds up great. They carry the factory colors JD green, IH red, Ford blue, etc.

 

[Bedlam]

Swine. I conpletly agree. More so after seing a Wal mart Documentary about how Wal-Mart almost dictates the price they will pay.
Rust-Oleum Brands - Stopping Rust is Just the Start

 

[Farwell]

Swine. I conpletly agree. More so after seing a Wal mart Documentary about how Wal-Mart almost dictates the price they will pay.
Rust-Oleum Brands - Stopping Rust is Just the Start

Bedlam,
That Walmart documentary was very informative. Walmart is having a lot of difficulty in other countries because the companies that Walmart tries to force low prices on are baulking. Walmart has actually left Germany because of this and is now focusing on England. They are having marginal success in England but will probably succeed there. The documentary focused in part on Rubber-maid and the products it produced. When Rubber-maid couldn't lower its prices to Walmart's demands with out going bankrupt Walmart dropped them and refused to carry any Rubber-maid products.. Rubber-maid went under. The name is still out there but it is no longer owned by the original folks and Wal-mart is now stocking some of the brand.
Maybe Walmart tried the same thing with Rust-Oleum and they wouldn't budge. Rust-Oleum does not need Wally World like Rubber-maid did.
David B

 

[DieselPower]

And thats why I no longer set foot on Commiemart's parking lot's.

As for Rustoleum, as far as I know their still going strong. I can find them at all the local little hardware stores and industrial supply stores.

 

[Bedlam]

I agree 100 percent. Ill pay the extra 8 dollars and buy it at the hardware store now.

 

[pekabu]

Wouldn't you know it, I own stock in both RPM (Rustoleum) and Newell Rubbermaid. Newell specialized in buying companys, and streamlining them. They were doing quite well until the Merger/Purchase of rubbermaid. I think there is also more competition with the throwaway containers (Glad).

Back to Rustoleum. When the economy is down or slow, products such as these pick up because company's spend money on maintanence vs purchasing. My ACE is the place has a great selection of their paints. Rust Oleum is a well known name brand, and is money for RPM. You won't see the name go away, maybe formula changes.

 

[George2615]

There are two reasons Walmart isn't going to carry Rustoleum.
One was already mentioned by MadReferee that Walmart offered at price the company wouldn't accept.
The other reason they drop products from their store is they don't move it fast enough. If it sits on the shelf they don't make money.

 

[dancer]

And thats why I no longer set foot on Commiemart's parking lot's.

This may seem a little off the wall, but I've recently had 'way more exposure to medical facilities and services than I ever wanted -- and I'd really like somebody with a "Wal-Mart" attitude to be my agent when it comes to negotiating fees and fair prices for medical services, at least!

 

[EddieWalker]

Can you imagine how much money the government would save if they aproached there purchases like WalMart does? Force your suppliers to give you the best price and then pass it on to your customers!!!

Eddie

 

[RalphVa]

I've never found Rustoleum paint to be very effective in stopping rust. What does stop rust is Rustoleum's Rust Reformer. It's similar to others sold under Rust Extender, etc. names that do the same thing. These turn iron oxide to iron sulfide. THEN you can use just any old primer to paint it, or just leave it the iron sulfide black color or bright metal that won't rust.

Ralph

 

[Bedlam]

Thats so true Eddie, Here in my town they purchased a riding mower from Home Depot for the fire dept to cut their small lawn.
People were quite upset, as there isn't much of a lawn, not to mention its a hill. But the Dept justified it as being legitimate, and well within their powers. They also added that Home Depot gave a 25 percent discount. Not Bad. But upon further investigation it was found that the 25 percent wasn't off the price that it was marked for the 'average' shopper. But Off a much higher price that they quote Business. This is common in this area.Many places wont sell to the state, because the state take up to 3 months to pay the bill.
But anyway, mark her up, and then down ...
Even at Wal mart the barn deadbolts I had been buying were on clearance for $6.47.
I prefer to pay the full price from the next nearest Wal mart. $ 4.84.
Marketing is so interesting.
Ever order from HF and get the item, and open the box and on top is an ad for the same item for , 50 percent off? Not a good feeling. Just the way it works out I guess. But still a bit of a kick in the face I think.
I once ordered a compressor, and they same day got a catalog with it for 80 dollars less. i called HF and asked if they could adjust it, they said no, but I could order another one and then return the first when it came in.
Sounded stupid to me, but I did. I got two at the PO and then refused one. So it got shipped back.Seems it would have been easier to do the paperwork' than to ship them all over.
A bit like the ice truck that traveled all over the country with ice during the Katrina disaster.I still wonder if it ever got to the south and used the ice, or just melted ...
Al

 

[midlf]

By the way...do you know you can still purchase lead paint? I have lead primer in my paint cabinet right now. It's still used for certain marine applications (bilges for example).

That's good to know. Where/how do you get it? I still have a very small quantity of red lead left that I'm hoarding, probably until it dries up.

 

[EddieWalker]

I got two at the PO and then refused one. So it got shipped back.Seems it would have been easier to do the paperwork' than to ship them all over.

You reminded me of what IBM used to do. When I drove for Airborne Express in California, I had to go to the Kennedy Centery in Oakland. IBM had offices on several floors there and would ship with us all over the country. They would also ship to differnt offices in the same building. Sometimes on the same floor!!!

I don't know there exact rate, but it was probably around $8 a package. It would take me ten minutes to deliver one to two dozen envelopes every day in the same building from them. It just amazed me at how wasteful they were.

I was at Lowes over the weekend and saw all sorts of Rustoleum Paint there. It's where I always buy it because Walmart was always out of stock of green. The green Rustoleum is a perfect match to me green metal roof.

Eddie

 

[Bedlam]

LOL Eddie.
Your right , I went to Lowes and got my paint.
There not much doubt in my mind now that Wal Mart couldn't force their pricing on them. And also what someone else said about not enough product being sold off the floor.Its all about statistics.
And of coerce no one at Wal Mart would get or give the correct answer why.
But to say that it wasn't environmentally sound, and they were going out of business, is a stretch. They could easily say I'm not sure, why, just that we aren't going to carry it.
Allan

 

[Bird]

Maybe Walmart is going to quit handling Rustoleum, and I didn't ask anyone at the store, but I just returned from our local Walmart and that store is well stocked with a wide variety of Rustoleum paints.

 

[quicksandfarmer]

California and thirteen east coast states have passed regulations prohibiting the sale of solvent-based paints in containers larger than a quart. Here (DC) the Lowes and Home Depot no longer sell oil-based paint at all, the paint store sells it by the quart only.

My guess would be that the reason you can't get gallons of RustOleum at WalMart has something to do with these regulations.

 

[Bedlam]

quicksandfarmer,
I think your right ,today I went to walmart, and they have all their oil based paint on sale to clear it out. None at all stocked in the normal aisles.
This sounds so rediculious, that it has to be true. LOL
It makes no sense to me why Id have to buy 4 one quarts of paint rather than a one gallon jug. Of coerce it will make them money that way, and also help with the steel industry.
I'm sure this is gonna be a flop. ,its nothing more than a ploy to get people to use latex paint. And I can tell you, it foes hold up well on the car, or implements.
Al