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frank_f15
Super Member, Rest in Peace
HARV thanks for the link to the real us bank site, as u know they explain the e mail in detail word for word. good thing i did not click the link in the e mai.
SCAMM?
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frank_f15
Super Member, Rest in Peace
yes it is a shame! /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif that some persons take take a very fine thing like pc'c or the internet and use it for ileagle uses or just to be down right mean and nasty, virsues, spam, scamm's etc.too bad there is not a way to get back at them.
BIGUN
Gold Member
I got this today. It may be a hoax, but it may save someone some grief.
New Scam By Phone
We all receive emails all the time regarding one scam or another; but
last week I REALLY DID get scammed! Both VISA and MasterCard told me that
this scam is currently being worked throughout the Midwest, with some
variance as to the product or amount, and if you are called, just hang up.
My husband was called on Wednesday from "VISA" and I was called in Thursday
from "MasterCard".
>
> It worked like this: Person calling says, "This is Carl Patterson (any
name) and I'm calling from the Security and Fraud department at VISA. My
Badge number is 12460.
> Your card has been flagged for an unusual purchase pattern, and I'm
calling to verify. This would be on your VISA card issued by 5/3 bank. Did
you purchase an Anti-Telemarketing Device for $497.99 from a marketing
company based in Arizona?"
> > When you say "No". The caller continues with, "Then we will be issuing a
credit to your account. This is a company we have been watching and the
charges range from $297 to $497, just under the $500 purchase pattern that
flags most cards. Before your next statement, the credit will be sent to ;
(gives you your address), is that correct?" You say, "Yes".
> > The caller continues..."I will be starting a fraud investigation. If you
have any questions, you should call the 800 number listed on your card
1-800-VISA and ask for Security, you will need to refer to this Control #".
Then gives you a 6 digit number. "Do you need me to read it again?"
> > Caller then says he "needs to verify you are in possession of your card.
Turn the card over. There are 7 numbers; first 4 are 1234(whatever) the next
3 are the security numbers that verify you are in possession of the card.
These are the numbers you use to make internet purchases to prove you have
the card. Read me the 3 numbers."
> > Then he says "That is correct. I just needed to verify that the card has
not been lost or stolen, and that you still have your card. Do you have any
other questions? Don't hesitate to call back if you do."
> > You actually say very little, and they never ask for or tell you the
card number. But after we were called on Wednesday, we called back within 20
minutes to ask a question. Are we glad we did! The REAL VISA security dept.
told us it was a scam and in the last 15 minutes a new purchase of $497.99
WAS put on our card.
> > Long story made short...we made a real fraud report and closed the VISA
card and they are reissuing as a new number. What the scam wants is the 3
digit number! and that once the charge goes through, they keep charging
every few days. By the time you get your statement, you think the credit is
coming, and then its harder to actually file a fraud report.
> > The real VISA reinforced that they will never ask for anything on the
card (they already know). What makes this more remarkable is that on
Thursday, I got a call from "Jason Richardson of MasterCard" with a word for
word repeat of the VISA Scam. This time I didn't let him finish. I hung up.
We filed a police report (as instructed by VISA), and they said they are
taking several of these reports daily and to tell friends, relatives and
coworkers.
New Scam By Phone
We all receive emails all the time regarding one scam or another; but
last week I REALLY DID get scammed! Both VISA and MasterCard told me that
this scam is currently being worked throughout the Midwest, with some
variance as to the product or amount, and if you are called, just hang up.
My husband was called on Wednesday from "VISA" and I was called in Thursday
from "MasterCard".
>
> It worked like this: Person calling says, "This is Carl Patterson (any
name) and I'm calling from the Security and Fraud department at VISA. My
Badge number is 12460.
> Your card has been flagged for an unusual purchase pattern, and I'm
calling to verify. This would be on your VISA card issued by 5/3 bank. Did
you purchase an Anti-Telemarketing Device for $497.99 from a marketing
company based in Arizona?"
> > When you say "No". The caller continues with, "Then we will be issuing a
credit to your account. This is a company we have been watching and the
charges range from $297 to $497, just under the $500 purchase pattern that
flags most cards. Before your next statement, the credit will be sent to ;
(gives you your address), is that correct?" You say, "Yes".
> > The caller continues..."I will be starting a fraud investigation. If you
have any questions, you should call the 800 number listed on your card
1-800-VISA and ask for Security, you will need to refer to this Control #".
Then gives you a 6 digit number. "Do you need me to read it again?"
> > Caller then says he "needs to verify you are in possession of your card.
Turn the card over. There are 7 numbers; first 4 are 1234(whatever) the next
3 are the security numbers that verify you are in possession of the card.
These are the numbers you use to make internet purchases to prove you have
the card. Read me the 3 numbers."
> > Then he says "That is correct. I just needed to verify that the card has
not been lost or stolen, and that you still have your card. Do you have any
other questions? Don't hesitate to call back if you do."
> > You actually say very little, and they never ask for or tell you the
card number. But after we were called on Wednesday, we called back within 20
minutes to ask a question. Are we glad we did! The REAL VISA security dept.
told us it was a scam and in the last 15 minutes a new purchase of $497.99
WAS put on our card.
> > Long story made short...we made a real fraud report and closed the VISA
card and they are reissuing as a new number. What the scam wants is the 3
digit number! and that once the charge goes through, they keep charging
every few days. By the time you get your statement, you think the credit is
coming, and then its harder to actually file a fraud report.
> > The real VISA reinforced that they will never ask for anything on the
card (they already know). What makes this more remarkable is that on
Thursday, I got a call from "Jason Richardson of MasterCard" with a word for
word repeat of the VISA Scam. This time I didn't let him finish. I hung up.
We filed a police report (as instructed by VISA), and they said they are
taking several of these reports daily and to tell friends, relatives and
coworkers.
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frank_f15
Super Member, Rest in Peace
THANKS for the heads up, seems like u can;t trust anyone today. must always be on the alert.wouldn't u just love to get these guys in a closed room for just a few min.?
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Hmmm....well it seems I'm up and WIDE awake right now, because SOMEONE (and I'd hate to implicate OTIS) is yapping their head off for the first time ever in the middle of the night /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif, anyway
found THIS in my email
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( _Dear Citi-Card Card-holder,
This_ mesaage was se-nt by t_he Citicard server_ to
veerify _your_ Email address_.
You mmust colmtpee this proescs by clicking on the link
beelow and enttering in the smmall _window_ your Citibank
_ATM_ Card nummber and PIN_ that you use on_the ATM Machine.
This is donne for Your pcreottion -v- becaurse some of our
members no lnoegr have acecss to their email adedrsses
and we must verify it.
http://www.ci ***butchered by me***
To veerify your _e-mail_ adress and accees _your Citicard
account, click on the_ link beloow.
QoNy1h2ZIjJeK
)</font>
I hit the url to see what would happen. Interestingly enough, citibianks website DID seem to come up properly in the background with a little (suspicous) pop up window in front of it that was asking for my card numbers....hmmmm...I'll just BET it will take letters instead of numbers, so, let's try it
I put in some "fake" numbers that were in fact letters. I think the letters spelled out something similar to telling them to copulate themselves somewhere... seems there wasn't enough room to type all that, so I had to "shorten the words" if /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif ya know what I mean /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Seems not only did that shortened phrase work, it came back telling me my verification process was SUCCESSFUL!!!!
Now in hindsight, I'm forced to wonder if they erroneously meant transmission of my card number was successful, or if my message back to them was successful and they uh...never mind...
I'm forwarding this on to citibank too.
Richard
found THIS in my email
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( _Dear Citi-Card Card-holder,
This_ mesaage was se-nt by t_he Citicard server_ to
veerify _your_ Email address_.
You mmust colmtpee this proescs by clicking on the link
beelow and enttering in the smmall _window_ your Citibank
_ATM_ Card nummber and PIN_ that you use on_the ATM Machine.
This is donne for Your pcreottion -v- becaurse some of our
members no lnoegr have acecss to their email adedrsses
and we must verify it.
http://www.ci ***butchered by me***
To veerify your _e-mail_ adress and accees _your Citicard
account, click on the_ link beloow.
QoNy1h2ZIjJeK
)</font>
I hit the url to see what would happen. Interestingly enough, citibianks website DID seem to come up properly in the background with a little (suspicous) pop up window in front of it that was asking for my card numbers....hmmmm...I'll just BET it will take letters instead of numbers, so, let's try it
I put in some "fake" numbers that were in fact letters. I think the letters spelled out something similar to telling them to copulate themselves somewhere... seems there wasn't enough room to type all that, so I had to "shorten the words" if /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif ya know what I mean /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Seems not only did that shortened phrase work, it came back telling me my verification process was SUCCESSFUL!!!!
Now in hindsight, I'm forced to wonder if they erroneously meant transmission of my card number was successful, or if my message back to them was successful and they uh...never mind...
I'm forwarding this on to citibank too.
Richard
MikePA
Super Moderator
I hope when you hit the button to send your 'card number' that their code didn't go searching through the cookies on your PC and find any information you wouldn't want to share. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
Richard
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Hmm.. none that I'm aware of, but I admit, I'd not thought of that angle.
Sheesh... can't even tell someone off nowdays without them having an angle on you.
I DO have cookies blocked (to request permission actually) and I deny most all of them except for a handful of places like here.
Thanks for that heads up though... guess next time, I won't be so obvious that THEY were so obvious.
Richard
Sheesh... can't even tell someone off nowdays without them having an angle on you.
I DO have cookies blocked (to request permission actually) and I deny most all of them except for a handful of places like here.
Thanks for that heads up though... guess next time, I won't be so obvious that THEY were so obvious.
Richard