Scaring Geese?

   / Scaring Geese? #21  
pbenven,

I saw a similar thing, but at a garbage dump, intended to keep the sea gulls away. The monofilment lines ran between a half dozen or so poles, randomly over the dump. I figured the gulls didn't like the thought of getting hung on the line. The dozer operated said it worked pretty well. He didn't say how.
 
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#22  
Yep, it appears there's quite a few techniques and theories out there on how to combat the problem.

I found an article that referenced a study done on Canada geese that claimed no human pathogens have been found in their feces. That's the good news /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif. The bad news is that this same study found that an adult goose produces aprx. 1 lb. of poop per day /w3tcompact/icons/frown.gif. Another bit of bad news is that I think "our geese" have learned to come over to our pond when we're asleep or away /w3tcompact/icons/frown.gif.

I admit to wanting a muzzle loader for the past year. A 50 or 54 cal. ball o' lead might be the best answer to our problem. I also suspect the young are now old enough to fend for themselves. BTW, this same study ALSO claimed that the young birds often return to the place of their birth every year. I'd hate to see this trend get started... if it hasn't already!

Dave

<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1>Edited by DaveM on 06/26/01 03:59 PM (server time).</FONT></P>
 
   / Scaring Geese? #23  
I agree a well trained dog is best choice. Don't know if a Border Collie would be best choice. I'd reccommend a dog that loves the water...like a labrador. Our border collie didn't like the water, but our lab loved it.

How big are the ponds? Can you cover them with mesh for a period of time? Can you interfere with their landing zone (i.e. plant trees or hang netting.

Once they've nested, you'll never get rid of them this season unless something kills them. I'd start planning on next season in case they return to the same nesting spot or new geese appear. Prevent them fron nesting (i.e. don't provide good nesting sites. And DO NOT feed them.

My 5 cents worth.

Bill
 
   / Scaring Geese? #24  
I wonder if the mono idea would keep birds off the fruit trees and bushes? Might save having to net everything.

Watcha think?

SHF
 
   / Scaring Geese? #25  
Yeah, I think you may have something there. It would probably be a lot less unsightly, too. If you could somehow paint the poles into the background, people might not even notice. Are you going to try it?
 
   / Scaring Geese? #26  
Woohoo, just went bronze with that one.
 
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Bill- Any ideas about a source for a suitable netting that would cover a 100' diameter circle? This would clearly be a better and easier solution than trying to string a bunch of line back and forth across the pond. If it's not too expensive I'd put it up next spring. In the meantime I'll be shopping for the muzzle loader. I know Cabela's has some nice models.

Thanks for your 5 cents!

Dave
 
   / Scaring Geese? #29  
A wind excited stretched string oscillator? This is known as an Aeolian Harp after Aeolius the Greek god of the wind. For pleasing people, multiple strings are frequently used, typically each a note in a pleasing chord. Great alternative to or addition to a wind chime. Never heard of using something like that to sscare birds. Long strings would likely produce low notes or just a rushing noise.

Muzzle loader? Hmmm, I have a .75 cal muzzle loading flintlock pirate pistol thingy (hand cannon) but the rate of fire is too slow and it is too labor intensive stoking it. There however, are special bird frightening shotgun shells that launch an exploding projectile. Essentially no shrapnel or damage hazzard if fired mostly upward (you might want to be a bit more direst, so to speak) and if they don't work on the geese, it is the 4th of July holiday season.

I would be looking to cobble something up using infrared motion detectors to trigger something geese wouldn't like. Unfortunately the setup I built probably would be a bad goose deterent as I used it to turn on a dishwasher water control valve to turn the water on to a rainbird sprinkler to keep dogs from leaving "Love Notes" in my landscaping (previous location was urban). Worked great on strays and great fun to watch folks with a leashed dog try to "Do it" in my yard. Picture someone with an eighty pound dog on a leash. They stand patiently on the sidewalk waiting for Bowser to do his thing. Bowser steps off the sidewalk, gets detected, water is turned on, while the air is still being purged (hissing sound) from the hose, the dog tries to jump a block away dragging the owner with a wrenched arm SOMEWHERE ELSE. A side benefit was that in two to three days it trained the Postman not to take a shortcut through my landscaping.

Geese could probably be detered with ultrasonics but it could annoy any dogs that heard it. Switching the ultrasonic projectors on with a motion detector wold mionimize the annoyance to other animals. I bought a few units from Sharper Image and some other catalog house to replace the rainbird gadget. Seems that during a drought when lawn watering to excess(running in street) was a punishable offence, some neighbor kids discovered but misinterpreted and misused my "system". Probably chased a ball into the yard and got sprinkled or something. They came back with their swimming suits and jumped back and forth over the sprinkler. They played so long (in our abscence) that water was running in the street. Didn't get a ticket but due to that concern, replaced sprinkler thingy with ultrasonics. Actually moved it to back yard garden area to keep cats from using it as a sandbox.

You M A Y try this at home kids B U T put the switch on the motion detector in the test position. This lets it work in the daylight A N D turns it off about 10 seconds after no motion is detected. Otherwise it will spray for some number of minutes (usually more than you want). This was a $8 motion detector with two light sockets. Just remove (or don't install the light sockets) and wire the 120 volt ac thingy to be controlled where the lights would have been.
Note: No waranty expressed or implied as to the fitness for any specific purpose of anything even remotely resembling what I described. Be careful, you could be killed or injured if you do something dumb. Not sure? Hire an electrician. Additional 10,000 word disclaimer available for those willing to pay to see it.

Patrick
 
   / Scaring Geese? #30  
Aeolian Harp? I should've known it was invented a few thousand years ago. (That's when all the cool stuff came out.) /w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif I would think that the diameter of the monfilament and the tension applied to it would produce the tone. Different thickness, different tension, different tone. What this device may be doing is producing a tone that resembles the sound of some natural predator, or disaster, thereby scaring the geese. Much like the sound of thunder sends my dog under the bed. Or, the geese simply might not like the song and don't feel like dancing.

I have seen the motion detector stuff being used for scaring away deer, etc. I believe you can find units in the back of some of the seed catalogs, (Gurney's etc.) don't know about the quality of them though.

SHF
 

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