Scored another Makita DCS6401

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I liked the first one so much, I found another for $240. Looks like a new saw. Love these things. If you see one, pick it up if the price is right. Made by Dolmar and runs like a beast. :thumbsup:
 
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Just wonering where you are finding them at? Locally? or are they Home Depot rentals???

I know a lot of guys pick up the HD rentals at pretty good prices:thumbsup:
 
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I bought one and liked it so well I waited for a sale and bought another! My deal was not as good as yours though. Still a great saw for not a big dollar, and I like it beter than my Stihls!
 
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I bought one and liked it so well I waited for a sale and bought another! My deal was not as good as yours though. Still a great saw for not a big dollar, and I like it beter than my Stihls!

So you have two also:confused2: I am jealous:D I actually kinda like them better in blue:thumbsup:

IMO, most people who say stihl or husky are the best, have NOT ran the dolmars.

Dont get me wrong, stihl and husky are excellent saws. But I think the dolmars are just a tad better, with a much better price:thumbsup:

I would still love to get my hands on a 9010 dolmar. But I jsut cant see spending $1000+:confused2:
 
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So you have two also:confused2: I am jealous:D I actually kinda like them better in blue:thumbsup:

IMO, most people who say stihl or husky are the best, have NOT ran the dolmars.

Dont get me wrong, stihl and husky are excellent saws. But I think the dolmars are just a tad better, with a much better price:thumbsup:

I would still love to get my hands on a 9010 dolmar. But I jsut cant see spending $1000+:confused2:


The "blue" version of the 9010 shows up on Ebay now & again. Have seen pretty good prices on them over the years.

Agree with your statements that Husky & Stihl are both good and probably many of the negative opinions on the Dolmar/Makita line come from those that probably never ran one. Also many are just "brand Blind" and will not look at anything else.
 
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LD1, I have been passing up the blue 9010 versions brand new for $600.

I need to find a big hardwood log to test some new to me saws in to compare.

John Deere 801 = early version Echo 8000 80cc

Poulan Pro 505 82cc

I have ran and owned stock and real good woods ported 7900's, but having there to compare to will tell the tell.

I also have a stock MS660 muffler modded I want to test against my really good woods ported 066.

Some things have to go soon :(, getting to many big saws again :drool:.

Already sold 3 dolmar 166, 2 husky 3120, 4 084. :confused2:
 
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LD1, I have been passing up the blue 9010 versions brand new for $600.

I need to find a big hardwood log to test some new to me saws in to compare.

John Deere 801 = early version Echo 8000 80cc

Poulan Pro 505 82cc

I have ran and owned stock and real good woods ported 7900's, but having there to compare to will tell the tell.

I also have a stock MS660 muffler modded I want to test against my really good woods ported 066.

Some things have to go soon :(, getting to many big saws again :drool:.

Already sold 3 dolmar 166, 2 husky 3120, 4 084. :confused2:

The 166 is another one I'd love to get my hands on. But they bring $800+ on ebay:mad:

My buddy has a MS660 and I run my BB 84cc 6400 aginst him and can beat him 90% of the time.

But he is one that runs the rakers at .025 and likesto dawg in. I like running my rakers @ .045 or so and let the saw do the cutting:thumbsup: Plus I think I can out-sharpen him by a little bit as well. He is kinda new to the wood cutting
 
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The 166 is another one I'd love to get my hands on.

Collectors drove up the price of the 166. Which was good for me at sale time.

If you find a 166 with scored piston let me know and I will hook you up with a guy I know that has had 166 pistons made up from Wiseco with thin 1mm rings. $155 a kit last ones I bought.
 
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The 166 is another one I'd love to get my hands on. But they bring $800+ on ebay:mad:

My buddy has a MS660 and I run my BB 84cc 6400 aginst him and can beat him 90% of the time.

But he is one that runs the rakers at .025 and likesto dawg in. I like running my rakers @ .045 or so and let the saw do the cutting:thumbsup: Plus I think I can out-sharpen him by a little bit as well. He is kinda new to the wood cutting

$800 is not what you would necessarily pay for the saw. It might only cost you $100. I have bought and sold countless saws and any itch to try a different chainsaw I usually scratch. I buy the saw and sell it a year later and never feel "married" to anything like a chainsaw. Even if I sold it a year later for $100 less than I paid, it would be worth it to me. Of course, I have a sickness stemming from my logging days when no less than a dozen chainsaws would be in my shed at any one time. I could rationalize it then saying I was "in the business" and "needed" every one. The wife has now put a limit on me which I negotiated up to 5. (She only wanted me to have two...the horror of it) I last purchased a Husky 385. Paid $1100 for it brand new. Sold it a year and 3/4 later for $1000. That fun cost me $100. If you have plans to keep it, then yes it would cost you $800. Me, I never know what I'm keeping. But it has been fun trying out different saws.
 
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My buddy has a MS660 and I run my BB 84cc 6400 aginst him and can beat him 90% of the time.

your sig = Dolmar 6400 84cc ported


I just caught that the dolmar 84cc BB 8400/6400 was woods ported. Man I would hope you beat a stock 660 99% of the time. Only time to lose would be a thrown chain :p. Heck a stock 7900 79cc is impressive JMO ;).
 
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your sig = Dolmar 6400 84cc ported


I just caught that the dolmar 84cc BB 8400/6400 was woods ported. Man I would hope you beat a stock 660 99% of the time. Only time to lose would be a thrown chain :p. Heck a stock 7900 79cc is impressive JMO ;).

I only have two or three tankful's through the BB kit so it may not even be fully broke in yet. And I currently have it set at a modest 12,800-13000 RPM until I get a few more tanks through it.

And yes, its ported, but it is more like just polished/cleaned up. It was the NWP kit from baileys and honestly, there wasnt much room for improvement. I couldnt go much wider at all due to piston skirt width. The only think I didnt like was the squish was a lousy .038 even with no base gasket. But even at that, it pulled 160psi before I even fired it up:thumbsup:

The bad thing is, when I ordered this BB kit, my buddy that has the 660 had me order him a BB kit also. He just hasnt put it on yet. When he does, I'd expect him (with 98cc's) to be able to out-cut me 99% of the time:confused2:
 
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The new generation 4th or up BB 066 are runners straight from the box. At least the one I ran bolted on a 064 did. The more gear I gave it the faster she would go and still pull good. I think I stopped at a 10T or 11T testing in small wood 8x8 cant for fun.
 
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The new generation 4th or up BB 066 are runners straight from the box. At least the one I ran bolted on a 064 did. The more gear I gave it the faster she would go and still pull good. I think I stopped at a 10T or 11T testing in small wood 8x8 cant for fun.

Thats not really what I wanted to hear:D

My 8400kit and his 066 kit are BOTH 4th gen kits. So whenever he gets around to installing it, I am going to have to quit racing him:D
 
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Make sure he runs a dual port 660 muffler cover or at least open his stock exhaust outlet all the way up like the old 066 used to be and then maybe open the stock cover up too with a deflector to work like a DP cover. :thumbsup:

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Make sure he runs a dual port 660 muffler cover or at least open his stock exhaust outlet all the way up like the old 066 used to be and then maybe open the stock cover up too with a deflector to work like a DP cover. :thumbsup:

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He's probabally going to have me install it for him when he is ready.

I am sure I can work some magic on it:thumbsup:

A little porting/polishing here and there, no base gasket if squish allows, open up muffler, etc.

@ 98cc's, when I am done, I am not sure an 088 or 3120 husky could run with it in under 30" wood:D
 
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Anything is possible. Stock bore 066 with my best chain.

YouTube - ‪woods ported stihl 066 8T set at only 14k‬‏

084 with CRAP machine square with some dulled cutters.

YouTube - ‪Stihl 084 woods ported 10T‬‏

3120 with same CRAP machine square chain with some dulled cutters.

YouTube - ‪Husqvarna 3120 muffler‬‏

Nice vids:thumbsup:

I never get to do anything like that. Best we do is drag a log home and use a stop watch. But the log is never the same size everytime and we never video it either.

BTW, is that pine, or another softwood:D Cause that sure cant be a hardwood.

Last time we had the saws out and the stopwatch, we were cutting ~14" rounds. Dead adn dry ash. Unfortunatally, I didnt have the 84cc kit on at the time. Only the 6400. But, the results

116si FULL port but semi-chisel lo-pro chain..........9 second flat average
120si & 6400's Full chisel (120 mild port job)..........8 second flat average
372xp light port work full chisel...........................7 second flat average
7900 bone stock full chisel.................................6.5 second average

The most impressive by far is the 116si, coming in @ only 60cc's, and being 17 years old, I'd put it up against ANY 60cc saw today. It was running junk chain too. I cant imagine a good chain on it:D

ANd I can say that the new 8400 IS quicker than the 7900. But not by much right now. Again, I still have it a bit rich until a few more tanks full. But just a guess, it probabally would have been about 6 seconds in the above wood.
 
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That was 8x8 aspen. Used to get accurate timing of gains made. Also used 8x8 10x10 yellow poplar. aspen was a lot cheaper that year lbf. ;)

Oh the 066 084 cut good in big logs too.

Pics of 084 at past gtg's. The 084 wears a 50" ripping hardwoods for a living.

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