Screws vs. Nails - Prepping to build a Shed/Garage for my Harleys

   / Screws vs. Nails - Prepping to build a Shed/Garage for my Harleys #61  
I've got an Estwing 20 oz. framing hammer and I find it about right for hand nailing. The heavier ones are ok for gorillas and youngsters.

You're going to want at least 3-4 cfm at 90 psi for the nailer, in my experience. I've got an Eagle 4.5 cfm twin stack compressor (with oil). That runs my framing gun quite nicely and is fairly quiet. You'll need a good sized generator if you go that way, 3000-4000 watts to handle the starting current of the compressor.

If it were me, I'd consider hiring at least part of the job out, particularly if you're in a hurry. You're going to need some help anyway with rafters and walls... see if you can find a small contractor and work out a deal where you give them some help (and keep an eye on things) while they build it in exchange for a little bit of a break on the cost. They bring the air tools to the game, you buy a decent hammer and white hat. Even if all you're doing is cutting studs and passing them, it saves a lot of time that is better spent by paid pros doing what they do best.

We did that with our barn this summer, I used 9 weeks of vacation, the first two were helping the two framers we hired, the rest was doing the finish work myself with the wife helping on evenings and weekends. I don't have carpal tunnel, and it's tiring work if you're not used to it.

Use the right nails for the joist hangers, Simpson makes them the right size and length for that specific purpose. We used them on our hurricane ties for the roof, I still have half a box I think. They ARE a pig to drive, large diameter and short length, real finger smasher specials. If you're going to be doing it, buy a palm nailer from HD, the Ridgid is a good one for the money and can be used for other nails besides, very good for driving spikes in awkward spots. You'll need a compressor for that, though.

Sean
 
   / Screws vs. Nails - Prepping to build a Shed/Garage for my Harleys #62  
Nice looking Motors, you definatly need a garage. I am down to a lonely Suzuki DRZ400 Dual Sport right now....but I have to say the thing is a absolute blast to ride. We have more gravel than pavement here...it's perfect.
 
   / Screws vs. Nails - Prepping to build a Shed/Garage for my Harleys #63  
   / Screws vs. Nails - Prepping to build a Shed/Garage for my Harleys #65  
Look carefully at the pictures of the Dewalt steel hammer. Notice how thin the edges of the handle are--I think 1/4" max.

Now look at the front & back edge of the Stiletto hammer. Much wider edges. maybe 3/4" and rounded nicely.

There are some mistakes a framer can make where the edge of the handle crashes down on a finger, usually with a 2x4 right behind the finger. Not very often, maybe once a year for a good framer. Maybe once every two or three years.

Which hammer is going to hurt more?

You can save $120 if you want, I have no desire to own a finger chopper, no matter what the price.
 
   / Screws vs. Nails - Prepping to build a Shed/Garage for my Harleys #66  
just a note on screws-they are not the appropriate choice for making a building but there are heavy duty versions with greater tensile strength. one common use is with engineered lumber (LVL/Paralam's) where the wood is so dense typical exterior (coated) 3" nails like to sheer off. Strong-Drive® SDW Structural Wood Screws they are more costly but installation is a breeze.

FWIW, a coated 16d nail is commonly used, ringshank 8d's on sheathing/roof sheathing along w/ the same 8d's and adhesive for flooring.

2x6's don't have a lot of load carrying capacity for distance-find a span chart and make sure the size lumber for the floor joists is up to the task.
 
   / Screws vs. Nails - Prepping to build a Shed/Garage for my Harleys #67  
I just installed a bunch (about 40) joist hangers for a deck mod and used the structural screws with hex head. Just enough room to angle my cordless drill in to drive them with the supplied driver. I'd still be out there trying to tap in nails in the space available. The screws are galvanised, not cheap but look good for the job.
I'm still driving nails the old fashioned way, 20 oz. hammer but thinking about an air nailer.
 
   / Screws vs. Nails - Prepping to build a Shed/Garage for my Harleys #68  
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I'm still driving nails the old fashioned way, 20 oz. hammer but thinking about an air nailer.

THE CTC one isn't bad, I've used a couple in the past 2 years and both worked well for the price..($99 on sale). I'm told they'll work with full-head nails, although I've used only clipped-head in mine.

Sean
 

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