seat belt - always -

markct · Jan 31, 2004

wow thanks for explaining that RIO switch, sounds like the dumbest idea i have ever heard, whats unsafe about operating the pto while in reverse anyhow

jdmar · Feb 1, 2004

No doubt belts save lives. I've worked at a level 1 trauma center for 7 years now. Our dead trauma team patients are either shot, not wearing belts, or on motor (?donor) cycles. (read "." as "PERIOD")

And no doubt that air bags save lives...although we do see a measurable number that malfunction (never release in significant FRONT end collision or several that have gone off seconds to minutes after the accident is over). The story that air bags kill more than they help is ridiculous. They kill when incorrectly used (and specifically against warning labels). The majority of deaths from airbags are young children in the front passenger seat. Children under twelve should not be there. If they must be (pickup, etc) the bag needs to be off--just follow the instructions (i.e. those papers we all keep "in the box" and never read! /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif). Yes, air bags do cause injuries-primarily facial bruises/abrasions, occasional fractured noses, corneal(eye) abrasions. But those are all better than the alternative. The newer generation air bags are even better. And even the old ones are softer than steering wheels, dash boards, and front windshields.
Lets all be safe and smart...if you do go and hurt yourself we are all saddened and we all pay also.

Old_Hickory · Feb 1, 2004

( There is a reason farming is the most dangerous occupation )

I believe the timber industry is the most dangerous occupation.

Old_Hickory · Feb 1, 2004

( Don’t forget about putting on make-up, eating breakfast in your car while on the way to work, talking on 2-way radios, and reading a book or newspaper. )

You are so right.

Lazy · Feb 1, 2004

Hi
Fatalities per 100,000

Occupation

Timber cutters 117.8
Fishers 71.1
Pilots and navigators 69.8
Structural metal workers 58.2
Drivers-sales workers 37.9
Roofers 37
Electrical power installers 32.5
Farm occupations 28
Construction laborers 27.7
Truck drivers 25

Source: Bureau of Labor Statistics; survey of occupations with minimum 30 fatalities and 45,000 workers in 2002

frank_f15 · Feb 2, 2004

very interesting statistics. u would think tho that someone involved in a very dangerous occupation, would be extra careful.

keeney · Feb 8, 2004

I think fast food should be illegal since people are not cardiologists and can't be expected to understand the impact fat intake can have on their cardiovascular system. 

The food we eat is already heavily regulated. The FDA is a large government organization that is dedicated to helping ensure that the food, drugs, and medical devices we buy are produced and used in ways that are safe.

Not sure they can really justify a ban fast food because the jury is still out on exactly why people get obese and die, but they have lots of regulations that protect you from a whole lot of other bad things that could be dangerous in your food.

Yes, I think that there is a place for debating where the line is.

However, remember that there are lots of greedy big corporations whose interest is not in your health, but in convincing you its good to buy their product, healthy and/or safe or not. Things like tractors with no ROPS, cars without air bags, etc.

As far as the choosing one evil over another, that is always going to take place.

For some reason, people fear certain types of injuries. In some cases, even disproportionately to how often they occur. For example, being trapped in a burning car by a seatbelt is something people worry about. Those same people never really stop to think that the case of having their head smashed against the windshield will make them just as dead, but is ten times more likely to happen. Somehow the thought of fire is scarier than simple blunt injury.

The human mind is a strange thing.

- Rick

Junkman · Feb 8, 2004

( I think fast food should be illegal since people are not cardiologists and can't be expected to understand the impact fat intake can have on their cardiovascular system. Then once you spend all your money on hospital bills from your forth heard attack the taxpayers will have to pay your way. )

Just what this country needs...... More laws to regulate everything from what we eat, to what we think and say, down to morality and if we attend a religious event once a week!! This country was founded by people that were trying to escape that type of oppression, and we are now going in the exact opposite direction. We can't enforce the laws that we presently have and it seems that the population can't get the idea that creating laws to prevent an activity isn't the answer. Remember prohibition?? It didn't work then and it won't ever work. If the legislators ever get around to making fast food illegal, I am going to lobby to have a rider put onto the bill that all tractors be ORANGE!!!

Hambone · Feb 9, 2004

Didn't cars from 1974 require seat belt fastened before they were able to start. I think I remember this on my mom's Gremlin!

Old_Hickory · Feb 9, 2004

( I think fast food should be illegal since people are not cardiologists and can't be expected to understand the impact fat intake can have on their cardiovascular system. Then once you spend all your money on hospital bills from your forth heard attack the taxpayers will have to pay your way. )

You can't be serious can you ? /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif