Seat Safety/Kill Switch

ran007 · Mar 12, 2006

Hi Guys,

I'm looking to disable the seat kill switch on my CC2544. I notice 4 prongs and 3 wires going to the switch in the seat. White, Yellow, and Green. Can anyone help me determine which wires are what? Or, perhaps share the info on how you have disabled this switch without putting a block of whatever in between the switch and the seat itself.

Thanks!
Randall

ran007 · Mar 12, 2006

I was able to figure it out.

Thanks anyways.

CCinCT · Mar 13, 2006

Can you tell me what you did? I'll be facing the same issue soon.

turbojerk · Apr 14, 2007

Tell me too....

wojnaroski · Apr 14, 2007

Last year I met a volunteer firefighter with 2 1/2 fingers missing from his right hand. His riding mower rolled over and did not shut off. His mower was an oler model without the safety switch.

Alan

pearlmanz · Apr 15, 2007

No offense intended, but why would you want to disable that safety feature? Thank you, Thge PearlManZ

dirtworksequip · Apr 15, 2007

I had to disable the safety switch on my JD 455 w/54 inch deck so I could mow the backside of a pond dam I have. It just will not run across the slope with the switch working. Dangerous to disable the switch..............yes,but so is the mowing I have to do. Sometimes to get something done you have to take what is considered acceptable risk. Some people will some will not. Its purely up to the individual of what is acceptable.

Sincerely,
Dirt

q man · Apr 15, 2007

My yard has a lot of trees, retaining walls, flower gardens, and odd shaped areas. Which requires a lot of turning and backing up. When I turn to see if it is clear to back up most of the time the mower and or engine will shut down. Also the tractor is used for many other jobs besides mowing. I like to look back to see how the implement being towed is doing. Shifting in the seat will set off the safety switch. I have no problem with using the safety features if they do not interfer with the operation of the machine.

Q man

turbojerk · Apr 15, 2007

The main reason that I want to disable it is because it's too sensitive for the type of terrain that I mow. I've got a few slopes that shift my body weight enough to shut the mower deck down every time and it's getting annoying to say the least. If there was a sensitivitly adjustment I would opt to do that, but since there's not, only one alternative remains....

I can't even hardly bust a fart without it shutting down....lol, that's just a joke!! Haha...

pearlmanz · Apr 15, 2007

Interesting and concerning.

I have an older model Snapper that you have to get up off the seat before it will shut off the motor.

If the CC GT2542 I am looking to buy is that sensitive, I might have a problem. I have not seen a problem with this until reading this thread, I will have to run that one by the dealer.

Dangerous use of any equipment is unacceptable to me but I have seen a lot of injuires from mower and outdoor equipment use doing EMS work that makes me look a little harder than some.

Thank you for the thread though, It will make me take a hard look at the GT2542 before I buy it as I have a good size slope to mow in one part of my 1 acre and that could be a problem. The PearlManZ

JSUnlimited · Apr 15, 2007

Don't worry about bypassing any safety switches and the safety police giving you crap about it. I have bypassed most of them on my NH tractor and am about to do the same on my Cub "Tank" Zero-turn.

In my opinion, these are developed my the mfg. because someone sued and had someone like Al Sharpton or JJ for representation (been following the Imus saga.)

Hopefully, your machine is more practical and productive!

ChipSmith · Apr 18, 2007

I am having the same issue on my new Cub. The seat sensor is very sensitive and will kill the PTO and/or the engine when I shift in the seat. I'm a pretty big guy so there should be more than enough weight on the seat to prevent this from happening, but it does anyway. I have some hills that are pretty steep and I am used to shifting my body position to improve stability hills. I have thought of disconnecting the switch, but I am worried about what would happen if the tractor would tip over. The thought of getting caught up in the blades actually scares me more than having part of the tractor fall on me. In the past, I have used older tractors that did not have any safety features, but never on a slope as steep as what I am cutting now.

It would really be nice if there were a way to adjust the sensitivity of the switch. Or maybe if there was a third party switch that could be used instead. Does anybody have any ideas? I'm thinking of trying to adapt the seat switch from my old tractor, but I have no idea if I could make it work. That old switch is more of a seat position sensor than a weight sensor within the seat like on the Cub.

turbojerk · Jun 3, 2009

I'm bumping this back up!

I really need this safty item disabled and I don't have a wiring diagram to see how to bypass this correctly...

diesel_nut · Jun 3, 2009

Can you put a small spacer or shim in it so it doesn't shut down if you un-weight the seat a little but have it still shut off if the seat is raised fully?

With that said:
I like that safety switch but I really dislike the parking brake switch. PIA!

The Dougster · Jun 3, 2009

How 'bout a piece of gorilla tape to hold it down... very durable and should last throughout the summer if not longer...

carpenter383 · Jun 3, 2009

If I remember right I simply unhooked the switch on the seat and the switch that cuts the blades off when in reverse. But my mower is made by mtd, so it may be different.

It seems strange to me why my dk40 dosen't have much saftey stuff. Heck I could jump off the tractor while traveling and it would keep on going. The shuttle lever needs to be in neutral to start the engine, but that's about as far as it goes for saftey features. My neighbor's tc30 has saftey switches all over it along with an extreemly annoying beeper.

moe1942 · Jun 4, 2009

The white connector just above the key switch will take care of the PTO cutout in reverse. That was my main concern. Hard on the PTO cutting in and out frequently and they ain't cheap. I don't mind putting the parking brake on when dismounting.

diesel_nut · Jun 4, 2009

moe1942 said:
The white connector just above the key switch will take care of the PTO cutout in reverse. That was my main concern. Hard on the PTO cutting in and out frequently and they ain't cheap. I don't mind putting the parking brake on when dismounting.

Rev Tech, baby................

http://www.cubcadet.com.au/features/images/reverse-mowing.gif

engage PTO, turn key back one position and hit the triangle button. Mow in reverse all day if you want

moe1942 · Jun 5, 2009

diesel_nut said:
Rev Tech, baby................

http://www.cubcadet.com.au/features/images/reverse-mowing.gif

engage PTO, turn key back one position and hit the triangle button. Mow in reverse all day if you want

Not necessary after disconnecting that connector and for some reason mine didn't always work as advertised. No more PTO shut down now.

aczlan · Jun 5, 2009

The 2005 LT1050 I have here has a switch with 2 wires on it under the seat, one kills the engine when you get off the seat and the other kills the blades if you get off the seat, IIRC one wire was white and the other was yellow, but I can look at it if need be.
I disconnected the engine shutoff one but left the blades hooked up, now if I get/fall off the seat the blades stop until I shut off the PTO switch and turn it back on again. After having the tractor roll on me last year I wanted to have something to stop the blades if I came off.

Aaron Z