Second Rear Remote Kit for DK45s

[ritcheyvs]

My 2006 DK45s came with a single rear hydraulic remote. There was once a kit to install the second rear remote but the parts guy at MIE told me this kit is no longer available. Does anyone here know if this kit is still available somewhere? Thanks.

 

[pmsmechanic]

Get the kit part number and Google it. I find lots of parts that way.

 

[Nick61]

When you find that part number can you post the results please. I have a DK40SE. Thanks

Nick

 

[k0ua]

When you find that part number can you post the results please. I have a DK40SE. Thanks

Nick

it is liable to be different Nick. The kit for the DK40se is still available as far as I know.

Have you considered using electric/hydraulic diverter valves to gain more remotes? Fasse makes some very nice stackable valves. You would control your cylinder by your original single rear OEM valve, and just flip and electrical switch to select the additional outlets you want. In my opinion cheaper, neater, and easier to install than the factory 2nd remote kit. Plus you can add up to 3 more if you want by stacking the electric/hydraulic valves. Look here.

 

[Nick61]

Very cool. I just thought that if the second remote that is an option would be easier. That Fasse valve looks pretty easy also.

Thanks
Nick

 

[k0ua]

Very cool. I just thought that if the second remote that is an option would be easier. That Fasse valve looks pretty easy also.

Thanks
Nick

Yep, actually the Fasse Valve would be quite a bit easier to install. I have looked at the manual for the 2nd remote install, and while it is well within the capability's of a mechanicaly minded individual, I think the Fasse valve would encompass a much larger set of "shade tree mechanics" than the original. Also as it is priced, you could come close to getting another valve for the price of the OEM unit. And due to its stackablbility you, you could have a total of 4 remotes while the OEM only allows for two. Also you could easily demount the Fasse valve stack from the back of your tractor and take it with you for the next tractor, and be left with the single OEM remote as it comes from the factory. There is no modification of the original remote. The new valve stack just "plugs in" to the original OEM remote.
Just something to consider.

 

[k0ua]

Boy, I sounded like a Valve salesman with that last post.. Sorry I did not mean to come on so strong... Must be all this sales training I am getting lately in the Medicare Supplement field..:laughing:

 

[murphy1244]

Yep, actually the Fasse Valve would be quite a bit easier to install. I have looked at the manual for the 2nd remote install, and while it is well within the capability's of a mechanicaly minded individual, I think the Fasse valve would encompass a much larger set of "shade tree mechanics" than the original. Also as it is priced, you could come close to getting another valve for the price of the OEM unit. And due to its stackablbility you, you could have a total of 4 remotes while the OEM only allows for two. Also you could easily demount the Fasse valve stack from the back of your tractor and take it with you for the next tractor, and be left with the single OEM remote as it comes from the factory. There is no modification of the original remote. The new valve stack just "plugs in" to the original OEM remote.
Just something to consider.

How would you plumb that ?? you still need a controller.

 

[k0ua]

How would you plumb that ?? you still need a controller.

Quite simple.. Lets say you have a single OEM remote and now want 4 remotes.

place 3 fasse valves together with the 3 valve "banking" kit which is nothing more than the proper bolts and nuts.

Now put (with proper adaptors O ring to NPT) on the far right hand outlets on the bank of valves, This will be your straight thru, no valves energized 4th remote. Place hoses from your OEM remotes into the left side of the bank. This is the feed, and will be controlled by the OEM valve already on your tractor. Now put AG or your choice of hydraulic couplers on the face of each valve in the stack/bank.

So you have 3 valves, and on each face is a coupler set. Control each valve by placing 12 volts on its coil. It will switch the hydraulic fluid path to the face of that valve. When no coils are energized, the far right hand outlets will receive the flow.

So you need the two hoses to go to the original outlets, and now you have 4 outlets controlled by a 12 volt switch with 3 connections. If you just have 2 valves you would have 3 outlets and a simple toggle switch with center off would work, otherwise you would need a 4 position rotary switch with no connection on the 4th position.

 

[murphy1244]

So I would have switches for each remote instead of levers. I would not like that as I could not feather anything or even have float.

 

[ritcheyvs]

... Have you considered using electric/hydraulic diverter valves to gain more remotes? Fasse makes some very nice stackable valves. You would control your cylinder by your original single rear OEM valve, and just flip and electrical switch to select the additional outlets you want. In my opinion cheaper, neater, and easier to install than the factory 2nd remote kit. Plus you can add up to 3 more if you want by stacking the electric/hydraulic valves. Look here.

I thought about that but the factory kit seemed simpler, at first. I now think the Fasse valve may be a cheaper, better solution. The actual valves seem reasonable enough but I suspect costs for the needed QD connectors, adapters, wiring, etc. could add up.

For those trying to visualize the setup, these pictures should help: valves. You would still control using the OEM lever, the switches just select which set of outputs is being controlled.

 

[k0ua]

So I would have switches for each remote instead of levers. I would not like that as I could not feather anything or even have float.

Negative, the switch just selects which remote is active at any given time. You still use the OEM selective control valve to control the flow rate.

 

[DK35vince]

So I would have switches for each remote instead of levers. I would not like that as I could not feather anything

I don't think it works that way.
The switch's are only to divert to the different areas through the valves, the lever should still control it while there for feathering.

 

[murphy1244]

Boy I sure would like to see that. Is that like Mtn View ranch?

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Look at all the pictures here. 3 valve bank for 4 total sets, all controlled with the single OEM control lever now with a Scorpion control grip. 2 thumb buttons and a trigger switch. A fairly quick, easy and super clean installation.

As has been mentioned,1,2 or 3 diverter valves. And please stop calling them Fasse valves. Fasse valves have multiple solenoids and are aluminum. These Bosch valves are cast iron and only have a single solenoid. :thumbsup:

If a person wants to save some money, there are sort of copies that are made in China, I can't seem to give them away though. :confused3:

And for those people with no rear remotes, this can still be done by using the loader control valve as the controlling valve.

One last thing, $650 for a single, $955 for a double and $1260 for a triple set. Remember, that is what is added in addition to what you already have, these kits have pretty much everything included in them, so you don't have to be shopping for other parts and pieces.

 

[o2batsea]

Yup I bought one of those kits on Ebay about 5 years ago and still haven't gotten around to installing it. I paid $30 for it cz nobody bid on it.
Also partially because it means taking a lot of stuff apart, which means deadlining the tractor for a day at least.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Yup I bought one of those kits on Ebay about 5 years ago and still haven't gotten around to installing it. I paid $30 for it cz nobody bid on it.
Also partially because it means taking a lot of stuff apart, which means deadlining the tractor for a day at least.

Not sure what you are talking about, with diverters there is nothing that has to be taken apart??? :confused3: I think that you must be talking about a true 3rd function kit where you have to go into the main hydraulic feed line, or the actual Kioti manual rear remote valve.

Please clarify so that others will understand what kit it is that you are talking about.

 

[o2batsea]

Um, I have a Kioti DK45 cab tractor. The hydraulic valve for the single rear remote is located roughly under your right hand butt cheek when seated inside. In order to add the second remote, which requires piggy backing the second valve onto the single, you have to put the back end up on jack stands and remove the right rear wheel. Also a couple of blanking panels, the tool box, the operator's seat and the A-N-B lever cover panel.
At the moment I cannot recall exactly what all is included in the kit. I opened the box, read thru the instructions and at that point put it all back in the box, cz it was going to eat up an entire Saturday, which I have yet to schedule. I remember there being a valve, some bolts, some pipes and a new plate for the 4 remote couplers along with a bunch of stuff in baggies. It's still in the box at the barn over on the Eastern Shore and I prolly won't get there until next weekend.
Maybe you could do all this without removing all the stuff they say to remove in the instructions. I certainly couldn't. Plus...they are translated from Korean to English and obviously without the aid of Google Translate, so they are a bit cryptic here and there. There are pretty good drawings tho...
The bolts holding the single valve come out and get replaced with longer bolts that hold the second valve in place. Then there are some hard pipe tubes that go to the second remotes. Finally there is linkage that must be connected so that the A-N-B selector lever will select which remotes get juice.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

02batsea, thank you for clearing this up. I am not saying that I could do your install any faster, my concern was that other people reading the posts would not know what kit it was that you were talking about since the topic changed from the OEM 2nd rear remote valve to a diverter rear remote system. There is no down time required with a diverter system. :thumbsup:

Thanks again.

 

[murphy1244]

Negative, the switch just selects which remote is active at any given time. You still use the OEM selective control valve to control the flow rate.

James I looked up that Fasse Valve system, pretty darn interesting. Can do a stack of 8 remotes if you want.