Septic stink

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#41  
Now I know why you don't need to pump your septic tank, all your solids are accumulaing in you ancillary "toliet trap." Just kidding with ya tut, but if your toilet does have a trap other than the fixture itself I think you going to have some problems there.
 
   / Septic stink #42  
Heheh... I can't argue with you there. This house is my new house... it is 20 years old. My old house was new (7 years old)... and this houses drains are definitely lethargic compared to the other house which by the way, WE SELL IT TOMORROW WOOHOO. It sat on the market for over a year. I'm so glad to be getting rid of the old new house and finally get to enjoy my new old house. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
   / Septic stink #43  
"I know I will spend the 50 bucks every three years to avoid throwing solids into the drain field"

Add a zero to that number for pumping out a tank here in the NW. Can't imagine why it is so cheap in your area, heck, the operator will spend an hour's labor just getting the pumping done which is worth at least 50$.
 
   / Septic stink #44  
Solids accummulate in the bottom of your septic tank. Some of it is eaten by bacteria however not all of it does. A typical tank can go 3-5 years before being pumped.

20, 32 or whatever is way too long. I remember talking to Dargo about this in a thread once. Begged him to consider pumping the tank. He told me the guy was there a long time getting the solids out from his 15 or 20 year non-pumping.

Once the solids make it to the leach lines after they've filled the tank, d-box and the lines it's too late. You'll end up getting a new septic system.

Please consider looking into this more for your own sake. You don't need to listen to me or anyone else but just look into what I'm saying before you dismiss it.
 
   / Septic stink #45  
A neat trick, if you can call it that, to resolve this issue is to put a filter on the outlet from the tank. This filter plugs with sludge when you have waited too long and prevents the sludge from overflowing into the drainfield. The filter does indeed cause a backup into the house but it does not allow the grit to ruin your drainfiled. This system is great for rentals on septic or even for the general public who typically don't fix it if it aint broke. I have a filter and my little trick is to loosen the cleanout cap upstream of the septic tank so that any backup will just pour out onto the ground.

Hair doesn't decompose. The tank will fill with sludge eventually.
 
   / Septic stink #47  
I still think this must be "area of the country" specific. I don't know of ANYONE in this area, the Piedmont of NC, that pumps their septic systems unless there is a problem. Only one household of my family or neighbors or anyone that I am aware of has ever had problems. The one that did have problems had standing water due to a faulty install for a mobile home. It failed just about from the very beginning.

TBN is a pretty big base of users. I'm curious if any other NC TBN'ers pump as preventative medicine. As I said, I know my parents place was built in 1971 and has never once had a septic system problem and has never been pumped. My grandfathers place was built in 1957 and has never been pumped or had a problem. We just sold it last year. We also take NO special precautions around here. We don't particularly pay attention to chemicals that go down the drain. All toilets and washing machines and dish washers go to the septic system, so they are thoroughly worked. It must just be down to soil differences in different parts of the country. In NC all grey water, by law, must be handled just like black water.

As a side note, I saw in other threads here a while back of something called a shallow well. TBN is the first I had ever heard of such a thing. I had always thought that wells must be hundreds of feet deep to give good filtration and clean water.
 
   / Septic stink #48  
getut,
Here in upstate NY, we pump our septic tank every 2 years based on how much sludge we've seen year to year. We were told that with 2 people we could get by with a 500 gal tank, but they recommended a 750 gal model. We went with 1000 gallons cause neither of us really wanted to deal with a clogged septic system.

Our toilet, all the drains, and the dishwasher and clothes washer all empty into the same system.

I've seen septic systems last for 20 years around here without pumping, but that's usually the limit, and then the whole system has to be replaced because the leach field is clogged.

Mike
 
   / Septic stink #49  
My town in Massachusetts recommends yearly pumping. I don't think it's needed. We do pump every 3-5 years, even that is probably more than needed.
We try to limit the amount of bacteria killing chemicals that go into our system bleach, cleaner etc.
I think there are really only 2 reasons for pumping a working system, grit on bottom is filling up the tank or fat scum on the top is so thick that it's in danger of clogging the leaching field. Both situations are unlikely if you pay just a little attention to your septic system.
 
   / Septic stink #50  
You septic tank takes in sewage and allows it to seperate like that multicolored neopolitan ice cream. Scum on top, sludge on the bottom, and the clear zone in the middle. The clear zone is really big when the tank is pumped frequently. The clear zone is where the outlet takes effluent to the drainfield. Over time the scum layer and especially the sludge layer build up, usually the sludge layer is the first one to make contact with the outlet pipe and begin to contaiminate the drainfield. The drainfield takes the sludge/effluent milkshake for quite a while and slowly becomes less capable of absorbing the effluent. Eventually it can't dispose of as much effluent as you are putting into the tank and the system backs up and/or the effluent surfaces and stinks.

This is the first time you notice a problem. It is too late. You can't clean out the drainfield.

It is certainly possible to check the tank for sludge to gauge how soon you need to have it pumped. There are certain sewage components that will not decompose and rot away and these will build up over time. The sludge layer is pretty dense in comparison with the clear zone so get a rake and feel for it. Better to feel for it near the outlet of the tank, and best to feel for it in each chamber. Hose the rake off and don't tell the wife.
 

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