Share Pics of People Hauling or Towing Something Wrong

David_Kb7uns · Nov 19, 2017

Up here in Oregon they call the Cascade Range the Cascades.

And I dare you to tell them otherwise and that you were born in California

David

California · Nov 19, 2017

David_Kb7uns said:
Up here in Oregon they call the Cascade Range the Cascades.

And I dare you to tell them otherwise and that you were born in California

David

Arguing with the natives about their place names is silly. We just saw that.

Grandma had the good sense to move from Josephine County - Oregon Caves area - to San Francisco in 1905. Nobody in the family has ever considered moving back.

California · Nov 19, 2017

Ok, back on topic. Hauling something wrong.

Has this been posted here already?

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lilranch2001 · Nov 19, 2017

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Garandman · Nov 19, 2017

ultrarunner said:
We have several new Subaru buyers in the Doctors parking lot and my Sister in Law just bought one.

I'm a little cool towards them... several friends had bought them new early to mid 90's... everyone either had head gasket problems or transmission... the two transmissions were CVT 4wd Justy... I think they were called.

The Justy was a tiny three cylinder car with one of the first CVTç—´. Surprised you know two people who own them! They had a one liter engine and the CVT was manufactured by Van Doorne in the Netherlands. They could only sell 500 a month because thatç—´ all the steel bands Van Doorne could supply.

You have to treat the head gaskets in four cylinder Outbackç—´ as maintenance items (like Toyota truck frames :laughing

. That was the first Subaru that sold in big numbers (because AWD wagon) and people treated them like rented mules. The typical Subaru owner at the time expected them to go 300,000 miles without maintenance. This led to the joke, å…¸he only thing thatç—´ cheap about Subarus is the owner.

We changed our head gaskets in the ?7 at 140,000 miles as a precaution, and the next owner (SIL) changed them again at 245,000. Because there are two heads itç—´ more expensive than an inline four. Like many fours they also need timing belt replacement at 112,000 miles. Ironically the turbo fours are beefed up and have very few head gasket problems.

Transmissions on the 4EAT and 5EAT used from the early 90ç—´ to 2014 were JATCOç—´ and had few problems. By 2015 all their automatics were CVT. Subaru is the only major manufacturer who doesnç¨š have a class action lawsuit over CVTç—´: but they have two others on the head gaskets, and excessive oil consumption. They extended the head gasket warranty to 100,000 miles and run an oil consumption test for free, and if the engine uses too much oil it is replaced for free.

We stopped buying the 4cyl Outbacks and bought the 2006 3.0R new. It has their [very sophisticated] VTD drive system, 5 speed auto, and timing chains instead of belts. Currently has 226,000 miles.

In terms of this thread and how Subarus are used, the Bangor Maine Police Department posted this picture, not as a caution, but to congratulate the owner for solving the problem, å…¸he Maine Way. Itç—´ parked in front of a WalMart. May have posted previously.

And another “Optical illusion.” This boat is 3,500 lbs with a full fuel tank. The tow vehicle is a 2014 Outback with the 3.6L, 256hp H6.

sixdogs · Nov 19, 2017

This is light years ago but in the early-ish 1980's I had a Subaru wagon that doubled as a truck on a regular basis. Anything that went into a truck went inti that hatchback-type car. As it started to wear out, I hauled 100 lb calves with it all the time. We put the calf in a grain bag and tied it tight at the top of the bag so the calf couldn't get out. It was a great restraint except on one trip where the belligerent and 120 lb calf almost got out and nearly rolled the vehicle over in the ensuing and terrifing scuffle as we slowed from 75 to 25 and rounded a bend at the same time. My passenger had to pin the partially escaped, and severely hollering calf to the floor for 40 miles. Man, what a smell with the widows rolled up in the rain.

I towed a trailer with one Subaru but can't remember if that was the one. Everyone towed with a car and some also cut the back half of the car off and made it into a pickup and then towed with it as well. It looked pretty bad but worked great. I looked for a picture on the net but could not find one. Just visualize the body cut off the car behind the front seat and then cut back on the sides along a body line. That "tub" that remains becomes the bed of the truck. Tack in some sheet metal to close in the cab, tar the seams and that was acceptable as daily transportation in rural Maine. Probably still is.

ultrarunner · Nov 19, 2017

Quite a few Justy's around here in SF California... Berkeley has a fondness for Subaru... not quite like VW of the 60's but similar.

The Justy with the blown trans had 8,000 miles... Doc said I could buy it for $1000 but instead donated it for a tax write off.

He bought it for winter in the Sierra... had a ski cabin at Tahoe and the first winter snow did it in.

I grew up around the car business... older used Toyota's were bread and butter... no issue with frame rust here or rust in general.

Ford has lawsuits over it's dual cone trans and when shopping for a car for Mom went with a 22,000 mile Toyota as it was pre CVT.

My little Samurai hitch gets frequent use... either hauling an empty trailer around the yard... towing the log splitter and even limited vehicle transport

LD48750 · Nov 19, 2017

sixdogs said:
This is light years ago but in the early-ish 1980's I had a Subaru wagon that doubled as a truck on a regular basis. Anything that went into a truck went inti that hatchback-type car. As it started to wear out, I hauled 100 lb calves with it all the time. We put the calf in a grain bag and tied it tight at the top of the bag so the calf couldn't get out. It was a great restraint except on one trip where the belligerent and 120 lb calf almost got out and nearly rolled the vehicle over in the ensuing and terrorizing scuffle as we slowed from 75 to 25 and rounded a bend. My passenger had to pin the partially escaped, and severely hollering calf to the floor for 40 miles. Man, what a smell with the widows rolled up in the rain.

I towed a trailer with one Subaru but can't remember if that was the one. Everyone towed with a car and some also cut the back half of the car off and made it into a pickup and then towed with it as well. It looked pretty bad but worked great. I looked for a picture on the net but could not find one. Just visualize the body cut off the car behind the front seat and then cut back on the sides along a body line. That "tub" that remains becomes the bed of the truck. Tack in some sheet metal to close in the cab, tar the seams and that was acceptable as daily transportation in rural Maine. Probably still is.

Just get a picture of a "Brat".

sixdogs · Nov 19, 2017

LD48750 said:
Just get a picture of a "Brat".

Well, yes, but visualize the bed cut out by a guy with a torch and a shaky hand. Then visualize lots of rusty and sharp edges, a tacked in panel done by a beginner with a stick welder on AC and a cold and crap-p-y weld. It sounds bad, and it was but I loved that aspect of the gold old days. The '70's were a fun time that way.