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[aczlan]

9 months to dig a ramp and chain up 30 trucks? Maybe getting the 30 trucks was the problem. The boom was mangled anyway. It seems that cutting it off would have simplified the operation.

If you figure they had 5 engineering firms there between the manufacturer's engineers, a marine salvage firm, a soils engineering firm, etc, etc, 8 months to get the engineering plans done and a month to do the work is pretty reasonable...

Aaron Z

 

[tungularafishcamp]

Plus wonder how long did they have to wait for the various government agencies to sign off on the job?

 

[groundcover]

Wonder why they didn’t just pull it out with a Toyota Tundra??

 

[aczlan]

Plus wonder how long did they have to wait for the various government agencies to sign off on the job?

True, especially if they had to pump down oil reservoirs, gearboxes, etc, etc to avoid contaminating the water.

Aaron Z

 

[Creamer]

If you figure they had 5 engineering firms there between the manufacturer's engineers, a marine salvage firm, a soils engineering firm, etc, etc, 8 months to get the engineering plans done and a month to do the work is pretty reasonable...

Aaron Z

I think they need to buy their engineers and project managers some computers. In nine months you could almost build one of those things. In the Northridge earthquake in LA they rebuilt the freeway bridge in 3 months.

 

[tungularafishcamp]

The big difference between the freeway and the dragline was who owned it, freeway is the governments(assuming federal) and they are quick to suspend or change the rules for their own projects!

The dragline, a private company, not so much.

 

[lostcreekranch]

The big difference between the freeway and the dragline was who owned it, freeway is the governments(assuming federal) and they are quick to suspend or change the rules for their own projects!

The dragline, a private company, not so much.

BINGO!

 

[dragoneggs]

9 months to dig a ramp and chain up 30 trucks? Maybe getting the 30 trucks was the problem. The boom was mangled anyway. It seems that cutting it off would have simplified the operation.

Yeah, I have to admit that I wasn't impressed with the recovery from my vantage point.

 

[Creamer]

The big difference between the freeway and the dragline was who owned it, freeway is the governments(assuming federal) and they are quick to suspend or change the rules for their own projects!

The dragline, a private company, not so much.

Although true - this is a sad state of affairs!

 

[California]

The big difference between the freeway and the dragline was who owned it, freeway is the governments(assuming federal) and they are quick to suspend or change the rules for their own projects! The dragline, a private company, not so much.

All it takes is money. CC Myers bid $14.9 Million for freeway rebuilding then was paid $30 million after finishing 74 days early. The $200,000/day bonus in the contract was in the public interest because that critical artery lost was costing Los Angeles $1 Million per day.

Off-topic : The morning of the Northridge earthquake, Caltrans's construction managers were told to mobilize all contractor resources they could find to save people then reopen what they could. Right now this morning. 'Just bill us standard overtime rates and the auditors will figure out anything that doesn't look right'.

A year later I was down there all over the region for many weeks reviewing various contractors' records to wrap up final payments, particularly for emergency work without the usual State inspector observing and documenting. An example was a local dump. The owner's home fell down. Later he discovered his dump filled with unexpected debris so he consulted with the trucking company responsible and sent in a substantial bill. Nobody had weighed incoming loads, his usual method for billing. I had to review the truck drivers' timesheets and cashed paychecks to confirm the trucking contractor's claimed volume/weight delivered. No problems found, the claimed volume was supported by the trucking contractor's labor/fuel/rental cancelled checks, and by surveyor's rough volume estimates. I recommended pay the dump's claim as billed.

There were some new subcontractors who weren't customary state project contractors. A couple of them worked unsupervised, then billed hopeful nonsense with no supporting cost records maintained for audit review. In those cases we refused payment to the prime contractor, who presumably stiffed the sub. Not our problem when no supporting records were available for audit. 'I'm from the government, I'm here to help you'.