Shell Rotella DFA (Diesel Fuel Additives) Test...

[5030]

I'd say they all have VERY nice "Attributes"

 

[fivestring]

Doc,
I have not used Power Service or any additive other than Sta-bil. If I were to use this Rotella or Power Service, would I still have to use a fuel stabilizer?

 

[MikePA]

<font color="blue"> If I were to use this Rotella or Power Service, would I still have to use a fuel stabilizer? </font>
No. Rotella, Power Service and Sta-bil all perform similar functions. However, I've always connected Sta-bil with gasoline and not diesel fuel. The Sta-bil web site says,

"STA-BIL® contains proprietary additives designed to reduce oxidation and metal corrosion of gasoline and diesel fuels."

Be sure to read the directions on the Sta-bil bottle before pouring it into diesel fuel. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[Docsknotinn]

Is This the county fair or just a local rompin stompin barn dance & BBQ ?

 

[cowboydoc]

Like Mike said no you won't have to use it. The power service prevents most contamination of the fuel.

 

[slowrev]

Re: Shell Rotella DFA (Diesel Fuel Additives) Test

#1 keronene works just fine and is a lot! cheaper.

 

[cowboydoc]

Re: Shell Rotella DFA (Diesel Fuel Additives) Test

That is true if all you are looking for is freezepoint but the kerosene does not help increase lubrication or add in stability of the fuel. If you're using your fuel in a months time or so then no problem but if you have diesel fuel sitting in a tank for 3 or 4 months in the summer with the humidity and such I wouldnt' want to use that fuel without something in it. It's a well known fact that diesel fuel will grow fungus and other things.

 

[5030]

Re: Shell Rotella DFA (Diesel Fuel Additives) Test

Dr. Richard:

I use a fungicide in my bulk tank. I'm not in the shop so if you want, I can go and look up the brand. It smells horrible. I guess it works, though. My fuel supplier told me that if the fuel in the polycarbonate bowl on the water seperator turns from red (off road) to brown, I have an algae problem.

We use to use kerosene and even a little regular gasoline in the tanks of big trucks in the winter to keep fuel from gelling. Cummins and old 2 stroke detroits returned enough fuel from the pump bypass to keep the tanks warm. Caterpillar didn't. The problem with Kerosene or Gasoline is that it is "dry", hence the lapped surfaces in the injection pump are then really prone to scoring.

 

[cowboydoc]

Re: Shell Rotella DFA (Diesel Fuel Additives) Test

The problem with Kerosene or Gasoline is that it is "dry", hence the lapped surfaces in the injection pump are then really prone to scoring.


You're exactly right Daryl. That's why I hesitate to use kerosene to keep diesel from gelling. I know after we started using power service we went from getting around a 100k out of an injector pump to 150k avg. from one. We also rarely had to replace injectors either. I'm sold on it and for as cheap as it is it's pretty good insurance.

 

[fivestring]

Thanks...

Guess what stuff I'm buying next for my tractor???

 

[dmccarty]

Re: Shell Rotella DFA (Diesel Fuel Additives) Test

Cowboydoc,

Are you saying that PowerService has a biocide in it? With
the problem I had with my fuel a few weeks ago I strongly
suspect alge growth. I did not see on my PowerService
bottle that it killed stuff growing in my fuel. I can't remember
if its the white bottle or not. Since we are getting so much
rain the tractor is having to sit. And Sit. AND SIT. I think
we have had at least two weeks where it has rained every
24 hours. HEAVY rain. And over the last few months we have
had very few dry days.

Is there another PowerService or some other additive that will
prevent stuff growing in my fuel?

I sent a note to BP a few hours ago. Curious if I'll get an
answer......

My dealer is looking into this as well... I've got a good story
to tell about my dealer in a few days. Excellent Service....

Later,
Dan

 

[cowboydoc]

Re: Shell Rotella DFA (Diesel Fuel Additives) Test

Yes they do Dan. Here is the link for the biocide.

http://www.powerservice.com/

Microbial Clean-ups

Microbes in the form of bacteria and fungus are present in all diesel fuels. If the fuel system is not treated with Bio Kleen Diesel Fuel Biocide on a quarterly basis, microbes can grow into colonies, resulting in fuel-filter plugging and in severe cases, fuel tank corrosion and leakage. The first indication of microbial contamination in a diesel fuel system is decreased fuel-filter life. Power Service has designed a microbial clean-up procedure that is quick and cost-effective.






Related Products



Bio Kleen Diesel Fuel Biocide
Diesel 9•1•1
Diesel Fuel Polishing Kit

 

[dmccarty]

Re: Shell Rotella DFA (Diesel Fuel Additives) Test

Cowboydoc,

I'm pretty sure I have the white bottle PowerService. I don't
remember seeing that it killed the microbes. Looks like I need
to put in the PS Biocide. I'll have to start adding the stuff
since with all of this rain the fuel is sitting for a lot longer than
it usually does.....

Thanks,
Dan

 

[SageBrush]

Re: Shell Rotella DFA (Diesel Fuel Additives) Test

Interesting, now my stuff doesn't sit much, gets fresh fuel once a month. Is Biocide still needed?

I thought the off road diesel had that stuff already. Thats what the oil company says. I've never used the Biocide in the tractors red fuel or even my trucks. But, I go through all my fuel once a month to keep everything fresh. We use the transfer tanks on our trucks. I use the white powerservice year round too. I found the web site yesterday and saw the product line. How much does the 96 ounce silver bottle run? I get the white gallon bottles for $11 at the CO-OP. Does the silver bottle cost more? Anyone know? /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[shady1701]

Re: Shell Rotella DFA (Diesel Fuel Additives) Test

the brown slime needs water to reproduce so if there's no water i believe it can't exist i think that's what powerservice indicates in there faq so if you run something like the PS white it keeps the water seperated and helps keep the bugs away..

 

[5030]

Re: Shell Rotella DFA (Diesel Fuel Additives) Test

Shady:

I could be wrong about this and I am open to Dr. Richard for a rebuke, but if I am not mistaken, there is always a little water emulsified in the diesel fuel.

As far as biocides, I mentioned in an earlier post that I use some foul smelling stuff that I got from my fuel distributor. Diesel slime isn't green anyway, it's pismuckle brown, and gooey!! I've never had it, but the shop had a diesel pusher towed in about 2 weeks ago. The guy was retired and never serviced the engine, just drove it about 1 time a year. It ran, but had no power. The mechanic spun the fuel filter off and it was filled with brown goo, looked like shiny mollasses. They had to remove the fuel tank, all the fuel lines, filter housing and injection pump. Clean and replace parts the weren't servicable and put it back together. While they were at it, they checked the coolant for DCA and it tested 0. So they did a coolant flush and precharged the system. I was talking to the old geezer and he was mystified as to why his motorhome broke. I just shook my head and walked away. I wonder if they checked his oil or if it even showed on the dipstick!!
Another reason why I don't like to buy used anything. People in general just don't take care of their motorized equipment.

I might add that the above statement goes double for used farm tractors and CUT's too. People flog the living snot out of them and then want a lot of money for a bomb waiting to explode. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

 

[shady1701]

Re: Shell Rotella DFA (Diesel Fuel Additives) Test

Yap all diesel has water in it diesel fuel like methanol it attracts water....

Mine from japan had a small amount of slime in the fuel glass.
I've never seen or heard anyone actualy having full blown algae bloom but if something sits a while with water i'd say it'd grow like crazy..