Shiitake Growing On Logs

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#31  
Who is a reputable supplier for the fungi?

I've gotten mine from Fungi Perfecti in Western Washington and from Northwest Mycological Consultants in Western Oregon. I would look somewhere in your region for a supplier. Someone else on the forum might know about your area.

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I got a bunch more big alder limbs bucked and into the trailer for my next batch today. I can start inoculating again next weekend.
 
   / Shiitake Growing On Logs #33  
Mushroompeople

Great folks. Just took a class at the farm (summertown Tn) a weekend or two ago in doing this given by Cliff of Spiral ridge Permaculture and I think it was Frank from Mushroompeople was there with all supplies and additional advice. Good deal all around.

Got Oyster and Shitake spawn and one of this weekends projects will be to go use up the oyster spawn on the stumps that are standing from the logging we just had done. Not sure how it will work, but should be a winner in several ways for us.

Good luck.
 
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Oysters are one of our main natural competitors for deadwood around here. They can fruit at any time of year when there is enough rain. I love 'em. I noticed some growing on a fallen branch the other day. Should be ready for me to gobble up soon.
 
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shortgame
I've been growin shittake for about 10 years . I've three different strains for different temp ranges. I've about 100 oak logs@ 4"+/dia. x 3.5 ft long . I'm usually able to fruit um from april through oct. here in w.pa.. To force fruit I use 55gal. plastic drums covered w/ black plastic . How do you soak yours ? I've started to experiment using 5 gal buckets w/ bigger dia. log x shorter to fit in the buckets. I'm able to some what deal with the slug issue by sprinkeling sand or D.E on & around them . I think it is important to say that no chemicals never ever should be spray on or about them.I'm sure you knew .. but for others ... I've had a problem w/ potatoe bettles/ bugs getting under the bark and it falling off the log prematurly. Any tricks to keep the bark on longer ? It' s nice to see others in this hobby:thumbsup:

ak9
 

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How do you soak yours ?

Like I said before, on my first batch four years ago, I did just about everything wrong. I soaked them that first year by making a perimeter of concrete blocks and lining it with a heavy tarp. I laid all my logs (16) in it and put a sheet of plywood over them and put enough weight to sink them. I got almost no mushrooms and pretty much gave up. Then I let them get way too dry and a lot of bark let go. I wrote it off as a total loss until they just started making mushrooms on their own the next year. I had a friend over and he pointed to my logs and asked, "what the heck is that?" I looked and saw mushrooms that I'd totally missed happening. Since then, the paper thin bark has gotten worse. I have not tried again to force fruiting. I just let them do their thing when it rains.

Alder trunks small enough to be easily handled logs have way too thin bark. That is why I've shifted to big limbs from old trees. Very thick bark and sapwood, and very dense and heavy compared to young trunks. So much heavier, that I have had to go to a foot shorter logs than before.

I don't know what kind of effort I'll be up for next year as far as forcing them. I know a guy who just lets his do their own thing and he gets a lot of mushrooms without the extra effort. He'd probably get more if he did soak them, but he's busy that time of year.

Right now I just want to get as many of these heavy limbs inoculated as I can. And I want to try to do better at taking care of them than last time. For alder, it seems the best thing I've found to keep the bark in good shape is to make sure they don't get dry. It keeps the heartwood from rotting too.

I make a lot of alder firewood, and I used to think that keeping my logs cribbed up off the ground would be good for firewood. Not so. Green alder logs dry rot really quickly in just a few months. The heart goes to punk and the bark falls off. Now I lay them in one layer on the ground to keep them damp. The wood is good that way for a couple of years. I don't know about oak and places it doesn't rain all the time.

Yeah, slugs. We have these little yellow exotics that are all over the mushrooms, both wild and cultured. Durn little buggers. I just pick them off and give them a good long toss. The exercise is good for them.
 
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shortgame
I've found in my area that trees/limbs cut in the spring right before buddin poduce better than the fall cut ones I've done . I use mostly white oak now but have used, black oak ,pin oak,red oak.. the white seems to hold the bark longer around here.What I would like to figure out is how to produce mushrooms off of a solid log once the bark has fallen off ??I 'm doing some experiments but not much luck yet .
I've not had much luck naturally fruiting as temps and humidity varies so much here so I mostly force them .I use EPDM as a ground cover to set the logs on and, old swimming pool covers,black plastic , or epdm to cover the top.
AlanB
I've always wanted to go to "THE FARM"! mushroom peple are a great sorce for info and product.. aah maybe some day I'll make it there.

ihuntbear
I would think Shittake would or could be made to grow In E canada .They grow on most hardwoods. They need alot of humidity/water & temps in the 60-80 degree f. range give it a try . Mushroom people sell an excellent starter kit I've used a number of times for 20$ =/- . Instead of burning a few logs inoculate them & try...
Ak9
 
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It seems that the bark is essential for both shiitakes and our wild oyster mushrooms. I read that the cambium layer is where they do their initial work, spreading to colonize the sapwood. If the bark goes, the cambium layer is exposed to competing fungi and drying air. I don't know what the system of growing shiitakes on bags of wood chips is. I read that in Asia, log grown shiitakes get a premium price.

I've also read that fruit woods are not good with shiitakes. Apple wood seems to be a favorite of chicken of the woods.
 
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Short Game
5 ish yrs ago I produced more than we could dehydrate / store . We had a web page for a year or so to sell um .... We had so many.. too many asian/ chinese wanting us to send um to china & ?... 99% did'nt speak english .I have had offers to buy all I could produce.. from china... I'm a small grower.. mostly for my family.. It just seemed odd to me . But I really do think growing mushrooms could be a profitable hobby/ bussines.
ak9
 
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Sent two logs to a new home in a shady back yard up near Seattle today. I finally got back to inoculating logs a couple of days ago. I've finished ten pretty fat ones, but it's co-o-o-o-o-o-old out there. My feet get frozen, standing in one spot. I have on insulated boots with three pairs of socks.

I will have to order more spawn tomorrow.

I love my new drill bit.

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