Shopping Vehicles Vs. Insurance

   / Shopping Vehicles Vs. Insurance #41  
Cost is probably do to having your son on your policy and the fact he drives a sports car. Ours was $190 a month extra for our daughter and a used PT Cruiser with just liability and pip. We had to exclude her as a driver on my truck and wife's car or it would have been quite a bit higher.

The Camaro is only about $125 per YEAR since it is defined as historical and limited use.
 
   / Shopping Vehicles Vs. Insurance #42  
young son with bad record and sports car will cost a fortune to insure

Insurance went up $11 per month after the first incident. Policy hasn't renewed since the latest incident. The Camaro is only about $125 per year to insure.
 
   / Shopping Vehicles Vs. Insurance #43  
BTW, one thing I want to point out. Some of the old rules we all knew about insurance aren't always true any longer. I still carry full coverage on my old '99 rusted Silverado. Why? Because for whatever reason, when Grange came out with their new homeowners product 5 or 6 years ago, the underwriters give you a better deal for carrying full coverage on all owned autos. If I drop the Silverado to liability only, it costs me another $35 or $40 per month. I know, it doesn't make sense, but that is the way it is.

BTW, I work for Grange in IT. I support the claims system, but don't have anything to do with the underwriting or the settling of claims.
 
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Grange went completely goofy on rates. Nearly doubled over a few years for no reason at all. Had to kick 'em to the curb since I refuse to support corporate thievery.
 
   / Shopping Vehicles Vs. Insurance #45  
I'm also an Actuary and have done claims projections and pricing for auto companies before.

If you know the game, you can get pretty good rates.
Ok, help enlighten me. My current insurer is USAA, auto is high but homeowners is ridiculous. They (and others) after some price shopping are insisting that my homeowners policy needs to be written for 850K but estimated market value is 700K.
 
   / Shopping Vehicles Vs. Insurance #46  
Ok, help enlighten me. My current insurer is USAA, auto is high but homeowners is ridiculous. They (and others) after some price shopping are insisting that my homeowners policy needs to be written for 850K but estimated market value is 700K.

Need more info...

What's high (my high might be different from your high)
Umbrella policy?
age
location (by flood plain, ocean, river etc)
past claims
etc...
 
   / Shopping Vehicles Vs. Insurance #47  
Need more info...

What's high (my high might be different from your high)
Umbrella policy?
age
location (by flood plain, ocean, river etc)
past claims
etc...

3900/year
500K Umbrella
Built in 1981
Not in flood plain, not waterfront
0 claims in history of house
 
   / Shopping Vehicles Vs. Insurance #48  
High cost add on痴 that a lot of people pay for and never really benefit from are towing and rental car coverage.


TBS

That seems like a pretty dumb blanket statement.

I pay $4 each vehicle every 6 months for towing, lockout, gas. flat change, etc. On a 4 vehicle policy, one incident or call out will pay the premiums for this for 3 years- for all the vehicles!
 
   / Shopping Vehicles Vs. Insurance #49  
3900/year
500K Umbrella
Built in 1981
Not in flood plain, not waterfront
0 claims in history of house

I looked up some values from a insurance benchmark database.

In Md, the average factor for insurance on a $200,000 home is 111. What does that mean? A home valued at $200K should be about $1800 per year in pure premium before risk factor credits. 200,000/111 = 1800 or 150 per month. Now we can apply that same logic to your house. It's insured for 850,000, so 850,000/111 = 7,657 per year or 638.14 per month of pure premium. Now the pure premium is then reduced by other stuff like an umbrella policy, low risk factor of natural damage, claims history etc. I don't know the exact factors your company used for each risk, but overall your getting 50% off your pure premium. That is pretty good.

Overall all I would say your rate is pretty competitive for your area and coverage limit.

Obviously this is a basic way of analyzing this and it gets a lot more complex than this, but this is a good way explaining it with out all of the industry speak.
 
   / Shopping Vehicles Vs. Insurance #50  
Grange went completely goofy on rates. Nearly doubled over a few years for no reason at all. Had to kick 'em to the curb since I refuse to support corporate thievery.

We had a couple actuaries that went off the deep end. They are no longer here.
 

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