Should I get my tires rotated?

[tallyho8]

I have a Genesis Coupe with 16,000 miles on it. The tires still look like new. I went to get an oil change yesterday and they said my tires needed to be rotated. I asked them how they would rotate them and they said the usual way, which includes moving the rear tires to the front etc.

I explained that they can't do this because the Coupe comes with larger tires on the rear. After he went back and checked them, he said there was no need to rotate them because it wouldn't help.

The owner's manual recommends rotating the tires every 8000 miles, by switching the tires on the right side with those on the left side but since my tires are asymmetrical, they must be removed from the rims and mounted on the rim from the other side and rebalanced making rotating much harder and more expensive.

What I was wondering is since the tires show a very even wear pattern on all tires, still looking like new, if it would really help to rotate the tires at this time.

 

[Winmac]

In your situation it may not be worth the bother to rotate them at recommend intervals , over the life of the tires would you save enough on tread wear to recoup the cost of the remounting, probably not.
Unless there are vehicle warranty concerns I'd just keep an eye on the wear patterns and swap as needed

 

[arkydog]

i would rotate them otherwise they will start cupping or get in a possible bad wear pattern. will also cause more tire noise. here you got a nice vehicle and you won't spend the money to have the tires done right, think about that.

 

[Al Mac]

A friend had the same problem. He was getting conflicting ideas. The dealer told him to just watch them and only rotate them if they need to be. If they are running even then he might never have to rotate them. They gave him a plastic tire depth indicator and also told him to also rub his hand around the tire on the tread to see if it has a flat surface.

This peaked my interest so I looked on a Hyundai site and they say the same.
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In which conditions you should rotate your 2016 Hyundai Genesis Coupe car tires ?
If your tires toe in or toe out, tire positive chamber or negatice chamber,incorrect tracking,wear indicator,overinflation,feathered wear, spotty wear,chopped wear contditions , you should rotate your 2016 hyundai genesis coupe car tires.

I thought that was different but many things are not old school these days.
Good luck.

Al

 

[om21braz]

Being it's rwd, as others have mentioned - just watch for uneven wear. Otherwise it's run them until they need replacing. If it's like an E350 sport we have, it will be 2:1 rear to front replacements.

 

[tallyho8]

Being it's rwd, as others have mentioned - just watch for uneven wear. Otherwise it's run them until they need replacing. If it's like an E350 sport we have, it will be 2:1 rear to front replacements.

My Coupe is a little faster than an E350 Sport but the amazing part about it is the superb traction that it has with the car being so light and with the 8 speed gearing being so low in 1st that it barely spins the tires and it seems that the rear and front tires are wearing very evenly although I frequently test my acceleration (when my wife isn't in the car).

I thank everyone for their replies and I believe that I will not rotate unless I see any unusual wear patterns on the tires. When measuring the tread depth it seems that I have used less than 1/5 of the usable tread so far so, barring any unseen problems, I should get pretty good mileage out of these tires.

 

[2LaneCruzer]

I have a Genesis Coupe with 16,000 miles on it. The tires still look like new. I went to get an oil change yesterday and they said my tires needed to be rotated. I asked them how they would rotate them and they said the usual way, which includes moving the rear tires to the front etc.

I explained that they can't do this because the Coupe comes with larger tires on the rear. After he went back and checked them, he said there was no need to rotate them because it wouldn't help.

The owner's manual recommends rotating the tires every 8000 miles, by switching the tires on the right side with those on the left side but since my tires are asymmetrical, they must be removed from the rims and mounted on the rim from the other side and rebalanced making rotating much harder and more expensive.

What I was wondering is since the tires show a very even wear pattern on all tires, still looking like new, if it would really help to rotate the tires at this time.

What do you mean your tires are "asymmetrical"? I have never heard of such a thing, except maybe for a piece of equipment or vehicle that was designed to drive round and round in one direction, or drive on a banked surface. Even if they are asymmetrical, it seems to me that moving a left front to a right front would compensate for any asymmetry. I don't know if it's still valid, but they used to advise that you not reverse direction on a radial tire because of the "set" in the radial. One of the advantages to rotation, is that you change your tires on the drive axle. In your case, you apparently can't do that, so it seems that rotation is not an option.

 

[DT86]

Forgive me in advance for asking a dumb question.

I get that the tire size front to back are different and there for you shouldn't swap them. What about them makes it so you shouldn't swap left for right?

 

[oosik]

Asymmetrical tire refers to the tread pattern. Example - R1 tractor tire with chevrons is designed to run with chevrons pointing forward. That's why they don't recommend a simple right to left switch. Now - take the same R1 tractor tire and mold it so the point of the chevron is not at the exact center line of the tire. That's what asymmetrical means. Its supposed to provide superior traction for higher performance applications. Some tires have this design to provide additional traction is wet(rain) & snow conditions also. At least that's how I understand it.

 

[Winmac]

A directional tire is a more commonly used term in the tire industry, I'd suspect that half of the car tires sold today are directional.

 

[Gary Fowler]

I never rotate my tires unless I get wear on the front from front end alignment problems. I just check for this occasionally and if no wear problems (tire is wearing evenly) then I don't really see any need to waste my time at a tire shop even if the service is free. Claims of better mileage etc from rotation ever 5000 miles is really bunk. All 4 tires will wear out at the same time if you rotate at 5000 mile intervals. Whereas without rotation and keeping the tires properly inflated, the fronts will wear a bit faster due to steering and heavier loading so they will have to be replaces at usually twice the rate of the rear, so I only have to fork out the dollars for 2 tires rather than 4 at the same time.

I also keep my tires fully inflated to the maximum recommended. It may ride a bit rougher, but tires last much longer and wear flat rather than on the outside edges when under inflated. This is really more important that tire rotation when it comes to tire wear.

 

[cmore]

I rotate mine every time I drive

 

[2LaneCruzer]

I rotate mine every time I drive

How true! In the words of Brother Dave Gardner (The Voice of the South), "It's all in the way you look at and in the way you study it".

 

[Bird]

Old school information. Fleet managers were taught that rotating the tires would result in longer life or more miles. BUT if you were paying to have them rotated, instead of doing it yourself, you'd be losing money. The extra miles would not be enough to pay for the rotating.

Now of course that might not apply to some of these modern tires.:laughing:

 

[2LaneCruzer]

My F-150 is a 4WD vehicle, and the front tires eventually will show some slight uneven wear and exhibit some road noise. Rotation and balancing are "free", so when it gets noticeable, it pays to have mine rotated.

 

[s219]

My last three sports cars have had directional and asymmetrical tires, and wider ones on the rears. So rotating wasn't possible in any way, not even by dismounting tires from rims. It is what it is. I think the longest I got out of a set of tires was 32,000 miles, which isn't bad for these types of softer tires. They have always worn evenly without issues. Come to think of it, none of those three cars ever had an alignment either.

 

[Handloader109]

I've never rotated on a regular basis. The cars that are set correctly don't have a problem, f series ford's trucks historical have front end issues and wear tires unevenly even with rotation.... I'd just watch with your situation

 

[murphy1244]

My last three sports cars have had directional and asymmetrical tires, and wider ones on the rears. So rotating wasn't possible in any way, not even by dismounting tires from rims. It is what it is. I think the longest I got out of a set of tires was 32,000 miles, which isn't bad for these types of softer tires. They have always worn evenly without issues. Come to think of it, none of those three cars ever had an alignment either.

I would be very lucky to get 20k out of my Vette. Soft tires are great road huggers but wear very fast.

 

[Bird]

My F-150 is a 4WD vehicle, and the front tires eventually will show some slight uneven wear and exhibit some road noise. Rotation and balancing are "free", so when it gets noticeable, it pays to have mine rotated.

Yep, I buy my tires from Discount Tire Co., tire rotation every 6 or 7 thousand miles is "free" and they recheck the balance every other rotation. And in fact, they did the rotation free on our last car, even though we didn't buy the tires there (original equipment tires).

 

[murphy1244]

I rotate every 5k on my Merc when I do oil filter or and oil change. I just got my third set of tires at 170k. Not bad. My Ford truck was a tire burner.