Shuttle Pause

[SLOBuds]

What I'm trying to understand is if the potential damage happens any other time than what is obvious to the operator.

What I mean is that if I am driving my automobile forward at 10 miles per hour and put the transmission into reverse, I could damage something. It's obvious to me that I am stressing the system.

If I am driving my automobile forward at 10 miles per hour, push in the clutch, and put the transmission into reverse without letting the clutch out, I will NOT damage anything. Unless I let out the clutch. Obvious.

With my tractor if I am at a complete stop and quickly move the shuttle from forward to reverse, with no pause, is that going to hurt the tractor? If it were my automobile, I'd say no.

Since I don't understand it well enough yet, I'm going to take it conservatively.

Thanks

 

[AndyMA]

On my New Holland TN with 16x16 electro hydro shutle you can shift from Forward to N to Reverse as fast as you like. The computer controling the shift modulates it to make ti smooth.

Andy

 

[GaryE]

What I'm trying to understand is if the potential damage happens any other time than what is obvious to the operator.

Martin ,


I don't think so. I own a L3710 GST and I do a lot of loader work with it. I give it about a half second pause in neutral. If I push it to fast, it will give me a little "grind"!



It will tell you if you are shifting to fast. Just listen to the machine and I don't think you will go wrong!




Gary

 

[SLOBuds]

Martin ,
I don't think so. I own a L3710 GST and I do a lot of loader work with it. I give it about a half second pause in neutral. If I push it to fast, it will give me a little "grind"!
It will tell you if you are shifting to fast. Just listen to the machine and I don't think you will go wrong!
Gary

Now ya see ... if I waited long enough I'd just plain and simple get the answer I was waiting for!

I was guessing that the machine would, basically, 'tell me' if I was doing something wrong. My cars have always done that for me and I was hoping that their cousin tractors were the same.

Gary - are you using the clutch when you go into neutral?

My operator's manual says that I don't have to. But here again I think the tractor will talk to me. If I've got the RPM up to 2000 or so during the load process and move from forward to reverse, that's probably going to stress the system. I would expect to get some noise and the tractor will give me a jerk from the sudden change in motion.

 

[GaryE]

Gary - are you using the clutch when you go into neutral?

Very rarely. Most of the time I just shuttle shift into neutral, pause, then reverse. But if I am forcing my way into a pile, there are times when I do modulate the power with the foot throttle. I will power into the pile, back off the throttle, then shift into neutral, pause, shift into reverse then back into the throttle. If you try to shift out of forward or revers that matter while applying to much power it will be hard to pull the shifter into neutral.


Hope this makes some sense!!!




Gary

 

[Vern1]

Greetings,
If I am really digging in hard dirt or pushing hard in low gear and four wheel drive, I clutch it, shift, then ease the clutch out and feather the throttle pedal.
Basically, I leave the throttle lever at idle and use the throttle pedal when working with the FEL. The only time I use the throttle lever is mowing or other straight line work.
If you are easing around and not using the clutch, I would pause in neutral for a second to unload the drive train and let the tractor stop, then shift into opposite direction.
As for upshifting or downshifting, I just shift it on the fly and adjust the throttle position with my foot throttle to ease the shift shock load.
Initially when I was pushing brush or digging with the FEL and working it pretty hard, I just did the forward-pause-reverse and noticed I could smell something that smelled like slipping clutch.....so I started using the clutch more like a clutch was ment to be used and have lived happily ever after....but I was raised on gear/clutch machines so it comes more natural for me.

 

[SLOBuds]

Greetings,
If I am really digging in hard dirt or pushing hard in low gear and four wheel drive, I clutch it, shift, then ease the clutch out and feather the throttle pedal.

That's auto/truck-style which should come fairly easily to most of us who use stick shifts (like me).

I appreciate everyone's comments. Thanks.