Sicma vs Ansung tiller

   / Sicma vs Ansung tiller #31  
Who knows what's in the mind of those engineers that designed them...

There's lots and LOT of things that can change the hp rating...

Did you call the maker and ask them? Wouldn't THEY be the ones to ask??

SR
 
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#32  
Who knows what's in the mind of those engineers that designed them...

There's lots and LOT of things that can change the hp rating...

Did you call the maker and ask them? Wouldn't THEY be the ones to ask??


SR

You have a good point, the manufacturer should be more knowledgeable than a salesman, but usually when you call the manufacturer there is no one who can take your call, and they reefer you to a sales distributor, been down that road once before but I will give it a try tomorrow. Thanks
 
   / Sicma vs Ansung tiller #33  
in some cases like Flail mowers, manufactures will state a certain HP to get a bigger(heavier) tractor. It does not take the HP to run it, but the bigger tractor to handle the weight. My Bobcat CT 235 is a heavy tractor for its hp - 3600 lbs vers 2800 for a different brand. The YJR 074 is supposed to need 50 hp (now down to 40) the big reason for this is it is heavy. My YJR weighs close to 1000 lbs, but I see its on a diet now at 919lbs but they did change the 3pt frame. I know it is back there, and it can lug my tractor down, but I just slow up and let things recover. With a gear drive tractor that can be a problem. So the manufacturers weigh on the side of caution.

I was told I could not run a full size baler with my tractor and that I had to go mini. Got to thinking about the old days and what farmers used back then, Tractors were heavier but about the same power. Bottom line - I run a full size Hesston 4550 baler without problem, even sub 450 rpm. I am just not fast but I get it done. One thing I do is test operate each unit before I buy - the exception is the new flail mower I have coming. However I did go lift a piece of equipment with the same weight and dimensions to check.

So HP requirements are relatively close and there so everyone is happy - can you run with less HP - probably, but not as fast as a bigger tractor would do. Given the size of you unit, try out some tillers first - even some of the lighter models are good such as from TCS and others - you can add weight to stabilize and many folks love them. Do a search You can trade up later. If you let us know where in California you are, others may be able to help better. There has got to be a rental place or Agg dealer somewhere near you. Check Craigslist too.
 
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#34  
I have no experiance tilling, so if I did rent a tiller I would have no idea if I was tilling correctly, as others have pointed out and from what I have read there is a correct way to till to preserve soil structure and not turn your soil to dust. So choosing an oversized tiller sounds like a bad thing to do. I think before i make a large purchase, I need to read up on how to till properly, then I would have a better understanding when I rent a unit. Thanks for the idea:drink:
 
   / Sicma vs Ansung tiller #35  
In doing your research contact your local county agg service. They can offer advice for you specific situation and soil type. What works for others may not work for you. With my Colorado clay, I work in a lot of composted horse poo, peat and fertilizer based on soil tests. My soil is different than yours, and I till until I am at 1/4 inch or less on the soil grains (others will go :eek: at this procedure). Each year it is getting better. It used to take 4 passes to loosen up, now only 2 with the second pass cross the first at full 8" debth. With my tiller I have the rear gate set tight against the springs, so it compresses after tilling, making things ready to plant.

Hope this helps.
 
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#36  
Thanks Powerscol, yes very helpful information, this is the whole point of a forum were people can share their knowledge and experiences with others.
 
 

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