Silverado 3500 HD capabilities

[rmk700]

Congrats on your new truck. I just got the 2015 3500HD LT Z71, double cab, long bed, 6.0L, dark gray color. As for accessories, spay on bed liner, bug guard, leveling kit, and a Curt Double lock goosneck hitch.

In the vid they keep wanting to compare it to the Diesel and shouldn't be. For the gas engine it did a great job and still think the GCWR should be a little higher. I'm not trailering all the time, if I was, the Duramax would of been my choice.

Edit: Found this Ram 2500 6.2 hemi test https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeWhXy_ciuM

Silverado Gauntlet climb, 10 min 38 sec.
Ram Gauntlet climb, 11 min 51 sec.

 

[Diamondpilot]

Congrats on your new truck. I just got the 2015 3500HD LT Z71, double cab, long bed, 6.0L, dark gray color. As for accessories, spay on bed liner, bug guard, leveling kit, and a Curt Double lock goosneck hitch. In the vid they keep wanting to compare it to the Diesel and shouldn't be. For the gas engine it did a great job and still think the GCWR should be a little higher. I'm not trailering all the time, if I was, the Duramax would of been my choice. Edit: Found this Ram 2500 6.2 hemi test https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeWhXy_ciuM Silverado Gauntlet climb, 10 min 38 sec. Ram Gauntlet climb, 11 min 51 sec.

What did the Ford 6.2 do? GM smoked that Ram.


Chris

 

[rmk700]

What did the Ford 6.2 do? GM smoked that Ram.


Chris

Don't think the test has been done on the Ford yet. I'm sure it's going to be a nail biter though.

 

[aczlan]

What did the Ford 6.2 do? GM smoked that Ram.
Chris

Here is a 2014 F150 Raptor with the 6.2 vs the 2012 F250 with the 6.2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upXsZIoR2VU and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeSFP7gyjnk
Looks like the F250 made it in: 8.28 vs 8.37 for the F150

Aaron Z

 

[HHR]

Here is a 2014 F150 Raptor with the 6.2 vs the 2012 F250 with the 6.2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upXsZIoR2VU and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeSFP7gyjnk Looks like the F250 made it in: 8.28 vs 8.37 for the F150 Aaron Z

They only put 8060 pounds behind the F250 with nothing in the bed, so the time up the hill can't be compared to the Chevy or Dodge.

 

[Diamondpilot]

Here is a 2014 F150 Raptor with the 6.2 vs the 2012 F250 with the 6.2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upXsZIoR2VU and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeSFP7gyjnk Looks like the F250 made it in: 8.28 vs 8.37 for the F150 Aaron Z

Ya, that's not on the same playing field. They need to test as they did the Ram and GM.

Chris

 

[94BULLITT]

Ya, that's not on the same playing field. They need to test as they did the Ram and GM.

Chris

They all neee to be tested on the same day for a good comparison. The Ram and Silverado were tested week apart.

 

[Copperhead]

Yeah, if I was towing a lot, almost daily, and for long periods, I could justify the diesel. I did some general figuring on this....

On average from various forums, I have read that the Dmax version of any 2500/3500 platform is about a $8K premium in price. Now factor that over a 100,000 miles, and you have roughly an 8 cent per mile cost of operation spread just in equipment.

Now factor general mpg numbers and cost per mile. Seems like a lot of the 2500 crowd is getting roughly 12 mpg averages on the 6.0L (I get around 14 mpg average for all miles, but we will stick with the 12 for this discussion). That would equate, at the current $2.10 price for regular in my area, about 17.5 cents a mile in fuel cost. Now just to break even on the purchase and fuel consumption, the cost per mile just for fuel on the diesel would have to be 9.5 cents a mile to bring the cost of purchase and operation between the two engines in balance. At the current average cost in my area for diesel, $2.80, the diesel pickup would have to be AVERAGING 29+ mpg just to break even from the additional cost of the diesel option in the pickup! That is not going to happen.

And we didn't even factor in the higher maintenance costs of the diesel platform over the gas, which is going to be when you consider the larger oil sump capacities, more filters, DEF for the SCR unit (when it works right), and cleaning of the DPF filter, or an out right replacement (OUCH!).

Except for the serious, dedicated hauler, the diesel makes absolutely no economic sense. It is a viable option in the right circumstances, but for the average user, getting a diesel only makes a statement, not a sound decision. That is why I chose a 6.0L in my new 2500HD, same as a vast majority of the business users of 3/4 and 1 ton pickups in my area, including the farmer's coop guys who regularly haul feed, tow anhydrous ammonia trailers to farmers, etc. Most of them are now on 6.0L gas instead of diesel.

 

[tcartwri]

Except for the serious, dedicated hauler, the diesel makes absolutely no economic sense.

Except that ( at least in our area ) you will easily get that up front premium back when and if you sell it.

 

[MikePA]

Except that ( at least in our area ) you will easily get that up front premium back when and if you sell it.

Then the only difference between diesel and gasoline is operating costs, which is still higher for the diesel. Copperhead's conclusion still stands.