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6sunset6

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NH TC34DA 34HP HST, 2 rear remotes, front diverter, loaded R4's
I have been using the skid steer quick attach on my New Holland TC34DA for 10 years . Last year both the bucket and the forks started detaching when pulling backwards.
It appears the locking pins were hanging up ,not completely extending. Something must be slightly bent but I cannot see it.
I opened up the holes in both the bucket and the forks and the pins come out a little further but the bucket still came off. I am going to see if I can add some weld material to the ends to make them a little longer if I have room to retract.
Anybody else have this problem?
 
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Are your locking handles staying put. I had to put thread locker on mine when it was new, they kept moving up, now never a problem since.
 
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The handles are still in the lock position when the bucket comes off.
 
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Welding a 1/8"* pc. "shim" around your lower pin surface on the attachment should tighten this up. I have seen the wedge pins in the tractors ssqa worn also. Are your springs that hold down the pins broken or worn/weak?

* or more if needed
 
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Welding a 1/8"* pc. "shim" around your lower pin surface on the attachment should tighten this up. I have seen the wedge pins in the tractors ssqa worn also. Are your springs that hold down the pins broken or worn/weak?

* or more if needed
The thing is, altho springs load the pins downward, the lock arm mechanism should present a hard stop before the pins can come up far enough to disengage. The shim idea could fix this. There is probably some wear in the lock arms that compounds the issue as well
 
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The pins seem to be short. I am making them longer by welding material on. They seem to stick out further and retract plenty . But its too hot now 92d F to continue. This seems to be the fix.
 
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The pins seem to be short. I am making them longer by welding material on. They seem to stick out further and retract plenty . But its too hot now 92d F to continue. This seems to be the fix.
The pins ar very hard to resist wear and give more strength. It may be difficult to duplicate the property in your extension.
 
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Welding on the pins doesn’t seem like a good idea. I have had attachments that wouldn’t stay put and the solution was adding shims at the top.

You might look here and see if it gives you some ideas on things to check.
Wheel Loader Attach
 
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It's likely the pins are jumping up, vs being too short. Mine did the same until I saw a stop block welded above the pins on another FEL. I welded a set on mine, problem solved.
 
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I agree with Rustyiron. Shim time.

Lift the attachment off the ground. Then see how much gap you have between the attachment plate where the pin holes are and the bottom of your SSQA. Use this as a guide to add a plate shim.

The shim can be added to the top as suggested by bdog. Or can be added to the bottom which requires precise dimensions so the locking pins utilize the shim
 
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Pictures of the gap the guys are talking about:

Forks3 gap 490.JPG
kevinj gap before 555.jpg




And the stop above the latching pin when latched:

kevinj stop block 558.jpg



This shows the over center travel so the latch can't push the handles up:

Over Center Stop.jpg
 
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Great pics X!!!! Thanks for adding them!!!
 
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Wouldn't you want to make sure both of the bolts are adjusted correctly before breaking out the welder?
 

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Great pics X!!!! Thanks for adding them!!!
You're welcome. Pictures make it easier for those with little or no experience to understand the written word.


Wouldn't you want to make sure both of the bolts are adjusted correctly before breaking out the welder?

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Yep, that is a good plan. :thumbsup:
 
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You're welcome. Pictures make it easier for those with little or no experience to understand the written word.


Yep, that is a good plan. :thumbsup:

Thanks for loaning me the picture :cheers:
 
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I'd assume that adjustment isn't the issue. The pins are spring loaded & the levers go over center. That means the springs are keeping constant pressure on the pins. Combine that with the wedges on the top & angle on the pins keep the SSQA tightening as it vibrates or wiggles.

My first set of pallet forks from Titan was similarly out of spec. The pins only barely engaged the holes on the forks. They refunded some of the price, in theory to have a local welder fix things. I just welded some bar stock to the bottom of the holes so the angle on the pins would have something to grab on & tighten up the SSQA.
 
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I'd assume that adjustment isn't the issue. The pins are spring loaded & the levers go over center. That means the springs are keeping constant pressure on the pins. Combine that with the wedges on the top & angle on the pins keep the SSQA tightening as it vibrates or wiggles.

My first set of pallet forks from Titan was similarly out of spec. The pins only barely engaged the holes on the forks. They refunded some of the price, in theory to have a local welder fix things. I just welded some bar stock to the bottom of the holes so the angle on the pins would have something to grab on & tighten up the SSQA.

Well yea, but in the above picture there is about a 1/2" of thread that you could use to extend the pin. If the pins are worn that much, why not just replace them?
 

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Pictures of the gap the guys are talking about:

View attachment 564636 View attachment 564637



And the stop above the latching pin when latched:

View attachment 564638


This shows the over center travel so the latch can't push the handles up:

View attachment 564639

Does this gap, or something close, exist with all your SSQA implements? If so, It could be wear or distortion on the FEL SSQA lifting brackets. Welding a shim or a heavy bead to the top of the plate will reduce that gap. Care must be used to maintain proper implement alignment.

SSQA Lift Plate.jpg

I borrowed one of Xfaxman's pics to illustrate.
 
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My ssqa grapple unlatched on one side couple years ago. I shimmed and slightly extended the top flange. I almost got it too tight. A bit more difficult to install. But no more worries about it coming loose. Really hard on the ssqa plate when this happens.....
 
 

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