Skidding Winches

[CalG]

Hmmm,,, (as I ponder with my coffee...) I never considered what the differences are between a wagon vs. trailer. I see that two-wheeled vs. four-wheeled seems to be a common distinction. However, if it is a tandem axle TRAILER, that doesn't make it a wagon, right? Maybe if the axles do not articulate together as tandem axles do, then the two vs. four wheels distinction applies. Although I didn't see any reference to it, I also think the ability for the front axle to be able to turn/steer is part of their distinctive differences as well?

BarnieTrk

Yep, A wagon has a steerable front axle. trailers are all straight axles, regardless of how many there may be.
It all has to do with where you grew up;-)

 

[Oldpath05]

Hmmm,,, (as I ponder with my coffee...) I never considered what the differences are between a wagon vs. trailer. I see that two-wheeled vs. four-wheeled seems to be a common distinction. However, if it is a tandem axle TRAILER, that doesn't make it a wagon, right? Maybe if the axles do not articulate together as tandem axles do, then the two vs. four wheels distinction applies. Although I didn't see any reference to it, I also think the ability for the front axle to be able to turn/steer is part of their distinctive differences as well?

BarnieTrk

I know, I thought if a tractor pulled it it's a trailer, I always considered wagons to be related to horses or my little red wagon I had back in 1965.

The best thing about tandem axle trailer is when the front wheel comes against a stump or bump the front wheel will pivot up and over, thus hauling smoother. On a single wheel wagon/trailer, the wheel comes against a stump bump, it has to lift the whole weight of the wagon/trailer to get over the stump bump, thus requires more power more traction more chances of the load shifting or falling off.

 

[CDN Farm Boy]

The only issue I'd have with wagon vs trailer is the loss of tongue weight, I rely on tongue weight for tractor traction. If I could afford the choice of a perfect trailer, it would be a tandem power trailer with log loader for me, with an option for a dump bed for moving dirt.

Wallenstein has exactly that without the drive wheels. They even have the option to remove the grapple and attach a backhoe bucket in its place or auger which would be awesome for fence work. LX95P/LT3HA Log Trailer/Grapple Package | Log Trailers | LX95/LT3 LOG TRAILER/GRAPPLE PACKAGES | Wallenstein Outdoor Power Equipment

Too bad the bloody things are so expensive. 14-20 grand for the trailer depending on options plus another $1500 for the dump box and another $1100 if you want the backhoe option.

 

[BarnieTrk]

For most of my childhood years, I rode on a standard frame hay wagon - then when I was 19, I did some work for a nearby farmer that had tandem axle hay wagons. WOW - did they ride smooth! I was amazed as to how tight the hay stack stayed nice & tight on that trailer! Yeah, a tandem axle hay wagon is more money - but WOW are they nice to work off of!

BarnieTrk

 

[tthopskin@yahoo.ca]

i dont know if anyone told you this yet but my brother use to work around big skidders and he said friday night the skidder would run the cable out put as much tension on the line as they could come monday just like new again ..take the kinks out lol

 

[BarnieTrk]

i dont know if anyone told you this yet but my brother use to work around big skidders and he said friday night the skidder would run the cable out put as much tension on the line as they could come monday just like new again ..take the kinks out lol

....and this technique works even better if you have a swivel at the hook end.

BarnieTrk

 

[LouieJunior]

I'm still working on the saw scabbards. They're being painted as we speak.

What about a cup holder? Looks like you need at least one!

 

[Oldpath05]

Wallenstein has exactly that without the drive wheels. They even have the option to remove the grapple and attach a backhoe bucket in its place or auger which would be awesome for fence work. LX95P/LT3HA Log Trailer/Grapple Package | Log Trailers | LX95/LT3 LOG TRAILER/GRAPPLE PACKAGES | Wallenstein Outdoor Power Equipment

Too bad the bloody things are so expensive. 14-20 grand for the trailer depending on options plus another $1500 for the dump box and another $1100 if you want the backhoe option.

Yes those are nice trailers and I can almost see 14K for trailer with pulp loader but not for the basic model with no acc., it's not even a 12ft. bed. I see around 2K in materials maybe 3K if the stakes come out in two pieces, which is what I need to load and unload.

 

[Jim Timber]

What about a cup holder? Looks like you need at least one!

It's on the inner fender right above the draft controls.

 

[milkie62]

I was split between the Farmi 501 & the Wallenstein FX 90.They seemed to be similar with me leaning towards the FX 90 because of the hitch.But now with the pulling weight difference between the newer FX 85,I am leaning more towards ti Farmi 501 again.My tractor is a Kubota M6800.And I love the front and rear Diff locks.