Skidding Winches

   / Skidding Winches #51  
Thanks!

If Rob's concerns about the ammo can safety prove correct, I'll up-armor them then. I have a good supplier of .50 cal and SAW boxes (what these are), so replacing a fatality isn't an issue.

The UHMW sleeves work really well. There's enough tension (side pressure) that the saws don't wiggle, but they still slide in and extract with ease. I achieved that by making the wide sides slightly wider than the tunnel in the chassis, and then pounding them in with a friction fit. I was a little nervous about going too tight, but they're smooth as butter once the nose is in.

Better than any saw clamp I've ever seen. :)
 
   / Skidding Winches
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#52  
The list is only 12 years old. Lol

Got the scabbards mounted today. There's 1/4" UHMW PE liners in them which should last a while.

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I like that. A couple close ups would be appreciated.
 
   / Skidding Winches #53  
I like that. A couple close ups would be appreciated.

I like that also. Maybe Mr Timber could come and build a couple of those on MY skidding winch and I will take lots of photos and post a complete "how to" peice. :thumbsup:

I have serious chainsaw carrier envy......
 
   / Skidding Winches #54  
I also gotta say you did a nice job Jim.

When are you going to start your 100 cord aspen harvest you mentioned a while back. That is a chunck of work. Maybe you can tell us about it. Is it part of a management plan registered with the state? Do you have time constraints ? Is it a winter cut to promote root sprout regen ?? Clear cut, thin an aspen stand, thin a mixed stand? Tree length or 100" sticks? Pulp, chip wood ......
What ever you can tell will be interesting.

gg
 
   / Skidding Winches #55  
Thanks for the kind words guys. :)

I was meaning to get cutting already, but my "real" business has been keeping me occupied with some snags. Right now I'm not sure if I'm going to try to cut this summer yet or wait until the heat blows over into fall. Aspen slash should just about be illegal for deer hunting, so that might make for a wonderful bow season. :D I still need to improve the skid roads and all that, so I have plenty to do without actually producing timber. My land was last cut in the 70's, and then had some salvage done in the 90's after a storm. It's been 25 years since anyone harvested anything out of it and the trails show it. Getting the tractor around is challenging to say the least. I've only maintained 6' clearance for the atv thus far. My dented right fender happened 150' off asphalt within the first 10 minutes of my running the machine in this state (it came from South Dakota). Hooked a tree trying to maneuver around another one with the loader. Needless to say, it's a bit tight. :(

I am under a SFIA management plan, but my forester had his head up his butt when he wrote it and didn't follow any of my input. He has it planned for a 588 cord harvest of everything but red oak in 2017, and I'll tell you straight out, if someone cut that much wood out of my property I will kill them. We need to thin things out so my crop trees can speed their growth (I'm not seeing 4% annually on 12-15" stems), but it'll be a very selective low-impact thinning.

My aspen cull is mainly because those trees are approaching the tipping point of wind mortality. If I let them go much longer, they'll have more top breakage than DBH growth and grade improvement, so I'm choosing to cut them now and pull some money out of the stand in the process. I'm reinvesting most of that into my timber business though - it'll pay for the winch, the Chevy C65 truck I'll be buying to haul wood, and should cover expenses (fuel, oil, chains, etc) beyond those, but not much else. When I get into cutting the oak, soft maple, basswood, etc, then I'll start seeing some profits. We have a couple mills in the area who are paying ok for aspen delivered, but it wouldn't be worth cutting if I had to pay someone else to haul it for me.

As for the scabbards: The mesh was used in case I want to add a basket to that area. Yes, my chain is super dull too. I need to sharpen that one.

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The inserts are just 1/4" UHMW with an improvised locking zipper cut on the edges. This plastic has a lot of memory and is flexible, so it's not fun trying to get fancy with dovetails or anything. It's also not like it's fine wood work, and these are going to get scratched up in use so I didn't try to be super clean about it. The two 1/4" nuts protruding from the bottom is the back side of a couple screws used to keep the inserts from lifting out. They're captured pretty good, but vibration makes everything move.

This is my 4# sledge (took an engineering mallet head and put it on a 36" handle) for driving wedges. I have nerve damage in my neck and hands, so I can't swing a 6 or 8# like I used to and the squeezing force to control a sledge causes my median nerves to go wonky. I can swing the 4# like a baseball bat though, and it's a great way to pop a tree over. I decided to hit it with orange paint for the growing season. Stuff just vanishes when you set it down out there.

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   / Skidding Winches #56  
I needed some 2x4's, so I headed to my woodlot and skidded out two 24" wind damaged white pines,

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Then off to the mill I go, to turn them into construction lumber!

SR
 
   / Skidding Winches #58  
Gordon, do you know if any of the Farmi winches are QH/i-Match compatible?

I don't believe any of the winches (at least Farmi's) are QH compatible. I found with my QH and JL501T that the top link is too high to use. After seeing how the winch works I believe I know why this is. Instead of having the top link arm and lower arms parallel, which lifts an implement straight up, the arms are not parallel. Non-parallel arms will kick the bottom of the winch outward when lifting, this creates a "shelf" and helps support the butt of the logs being hauled. It is quite ingenious and works very well (at least on my tractor).

Blane
(also from NW Oregon)
 
   / Skidding Winches #60  
For that price, you can get a new FX90 old model, or new FX85 delivered.

I am not sure you can get one delivered to the west coast for that price. An FX85 only pulls 8500 pounds and weighs 470 pounds. A Farmi JL501 pulls 11,000 pounds and weighs 725 pounds. Apples to Oranges. Needless to say the winch sold quick to somebody who knew what they were looking at.

Blane
 
 

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