Small Dozer under 10,000 lbs ... do they exist?

   / Small Dozer under 10,000 lbs ... do they exist? #41  
   / Small Dozer under 10,000 lbs ... do they exist? #42  
Right ... I get it guys . What I'm saying is that if I pick up a small dozer for grading jobs, is it feasible to use it for a small pond? Considering it's on my property and no time limit exists...

Absolutely...it won't be fast, but it'll do it.
 
   / Small Dozer under 10,000 lbs ... do they exist? #43  
That is not going to happen. A d3 weighs close to double what that skid steer weighs. Doing any serious earth moving a d3 will eat that skid steers lunch.

d3 doesn't weigh 20,000 lb a tl150 weighs 10,000. I have ran both before and I know what I would choose
 
   / Small Dozer under 10,000 lbs ... do they exist? #44  
I used mine to do most of the cellar hole for my house. I made a ramp and just kept pushing the dirt out of the hole. Once I pushed it out and made a mound. From there I used my loader to put it into my dump truck to move to where wanted. I think the only thing that would be an issue when it comes to making a pond would be time and if you have very large rocks to be moved. However I have moved some pretty big rocks with mine.
 
   / Small Dozer under 10,000 lbs ... do they exist? #45  
To get under the 10k lb goal, I'd suggest that the Komatsu D20/21 are nice machines. Grey market machines, especially the older units, will not have proper ROPS/FOPS which can be a concern. Maybe less of a concern if tinkering on the ranch, but out doing paying jobs without proper safety equipment can be an issue. Some parts are getting difficult on the older grey Komatsu dozers. Many have the wide mud tracks, which aren't the best for most applications. Some are clutch, some are power-shift. That being said, a USA spec D21 with joystick controls is a sweet little machine. I think it would have some advantages over a big tracked skid steer, but be a little less versatile also. I've had D20/21/31 and a D3. The D31 and D3 are really nice machines. I think I can nearly keep up with a D20/21 with a big tracked skid-steer in many applications, so I am not sure it would pay to go with a dozer smaller than a D3 unless you can afford to have that specialized machine hanging around for those perfect jobs.

My son runs dirt moving equipment for a living and they have a JD450 dozer and the largest JD skid-steer plus an excavator. On smaller jobs, the dozer stays home. Bigger jobs and cutting in driveways and such, they often bring the dozer. If they were forced to sell one or the other, they would likely keep the skid-steer.
 
   / Small Dozer under 10,000 lbs ... do they exist? #46  
d3 doesn't weigh 20,000 lb a tl150 weighs 10,000. I have ran both before and I know what I would choose
A D3 weighs 18,000 pounds. Even if the weight was equal steel tracks will push harder than rubber. For real grading work a dozer will eat a SS's lunch. No offense, but you probably are not a good dozer operator. I suck at using a dozer too, but that doesn't make a SS faster. An 18,000 pound dozer VS a 10,000 SS doing grading work is no contest. Now if the contest was to load a dump truck with dirt the SS is a clear winner.
 
   / Small Dozer under 10,000 lbs ... do they exist? #47  
I would look at buying a used dump truck. Around here they are cheaper than a comparable condition F-350 or a 3500 diesel. I'm sure you could find uses for a dump truck, and tow a bigger dozer.
 
   / Small Dozer under 10,000 lbs ... do they exist?
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#48  
I would look at buying a used dump truck. Around here they are cheaper than a comparable condition F-350 or a 3500 diesel. I'm sure you could find uses for a dump truck, and tow a bigger dozer.

I've also been trying to stay under 26001 GCWR
 
   / Small Dozer under 10,000 lbs ... do they exist? #49  
I've also been trying to stay under 26001 GCWR

Go big! :D

My latest purchase...still getting it cleaned up, but a lot of truck for $4K:

 
   / Small Dozer under 10,000 lbs ... do they exist? #50  
Also, I'm seeing multiple model number variations with the Komatsu d 21 units, especially the last character of the model numbers. Being that I am very new to researching these machines, I have no idea what the differences in models actually means. Would anybody be able to give me a quick explanation of the different variations or options that I am seeing with the model number differences?

Have you looked at Ritchie Specs to see if the differences are obvious when you compare the different variations?
 

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