SMALL Polebarn costs: $45,000+??? YIKES!!!!

[Dargo]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Methinks a few of you guys might be a wee bit **** with the hand washing and door handle handling. )</font>

Okay, I started that part. I'll admit that especially with all of the flu going around now, I'm more concerned about the guy before me who didn't wash at all and used the door handle. Unfortunately a very bad version of the flu has been going around my house. My wife has been basically bed ridden with the flu for over 2 weeks. I also have 5 kids that it's starting through. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif Yup, I'm paranoid about germs at the moment.

Sorry to be off the subject for a moment, but I have to ask something. You see, with the flu going through my family, I've been taking double doses of these giant multi vitamins every day. (so far no flu) You see, yesterday I reached in my pocket while I was out working to take these big honker vitamins and popped them in my mouth and washed them down. I had a slight scratching sensation in my throat and, at that point, I realized something was wrong. I had a yellow wire nut in my pocket that I'd picked up off of my shop floor with those vitamins. Yesterday I swallowed it along with the huge multi-vitamins. Seriously! /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif Think it will come out okay? /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

 

[dummy]

I don't know about the other guys, but I guess I'm getting the shorter end too. My 28 x 28 garage foundation and apron cost $5004.33, a $1000 was for pour and finish labor. My framing package (roofing, one man door and windows) was quoted at $14890.00, two 9x8 overhead doors $834.00, two electric openers( one battery powered) $300.00 equals $21028.33. Coming soon but not included in the price; insulation, siding, electric, plumbing, interior finish material, labor or site planning.

 

[Bob_Skurka]

Dummy, the one thing that you and I seem to share in common is that we both live on the fringe of high cost metropolitan areas. My problems are further compounded by code restrictions.

From what I can see as I reread the thread (leaving out the potty issues) is that we can divide the group into a couple different camps. . . -Those who have no restrictions can build a basic building for 1/2 the price.
-Those who can do it themselves can also save big bucks.
-Those who live closers to cities simply pay more for everything.
-Code restrictions play a big part in the cost of the structure.


Then in my particular situation:
-Wood siding is much more expensive than steel
-Brick details rack up the costs
-Hip roofs are much cheaper than gable ends

As I look over everything again and again, the thing that rings out is that style & features rack up the costs very quickly.

I spoke with FBI (Farm Builders Inc) about this same project, they basically declined to bid saying what I wanted would be expensive. So my 3rd bid never even came because they declined to bid. I did learn, and it was pointed out, that the guy at my church is the WRONG builder to use. Bid #2 now is seeming to be much more reasonable. I am going to the lumber yard and am going to get a materials price as I have the materials list. I want to confirm some things. If the materials prices come back in line then I will probalby take Bid #2, if I find some wide swing in the numbers, then I will re-bid the project.

Also, I should point out that both builders got the exact same set of requirements from me (I photocopied my set and gave it to each). Bid #2 had 2 options, one was to increase the length 4', even with the increased size, his bid was still $5000 less than Bid #1.

 

[Michigan_Mike]

Sorry Bob, I misunderstood.
Now the bids make absolutly no sense. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

 

[RobS]

Bob, have you considered stick building your new structure. Many of your details are more "house like" than "barn like". You may find a better deal with a conventional builder and more conventional construction. A friend of mine had a carriage house built with a lot of house-like details including finished attic. He ended up using a home builder and it was cheaper (though not by much) than the barn builders were quoting /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[Bob_Skurka]

Rob, Bid #2 is cheaper, has more features, has more details, is bigger, AND IT IS STICK BUILT by a home builder.

 

[RobS]

<font color="blue">AND IT IS STICK BUILT </font>

NOW I see that. Somehow, I knew I wasn't bringing anything new to this discussion /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[Bob_Skurka]

Maybe you want to enter the part of the discussion where people talked about their potty habits?

 

[RobS]

I think that's how I missed the stick built detail in your earlier post /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[Dargo]

Okay, since you didn't like my "potty" interruption, would it interest you that the huge growth in "apartment" and "assisted living" segment in S. IN is basically sectioned pole barns?? All over the place developers are building long single story pole barns, dividing them into roughly 800 sq. ft. sections, bricking the outside of them, and making an absolute mint off of them!

In a pole barn that is about 40 X 400, they are making about 20 "apartments" out of them. Each "apartment" rents for around $1000 a month and they have a waiting list of people wanting to rent them!! Heck, I could section off my barn and get about a half a dozen old people to move in. Let's see, that would bring in about $6,000 a month; hmm, I may have to move my tractors and cars out! /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

I don't understand this situation though. In my county, it is illegal to live in a pole barn. How are these developers building pole barns, bricking the outside, and packing people in? Heck, on 40 acres of land, they are getting a few hundred tenents! Talk about a cash cow!! I'm still trying to find out how they are getting by with this. One of these developments is only about a mile from my house and I've watched them set the posts, hang the trusses, string the perlins etc. Other than the brick, they are short, squatty, elongated pole barns! Not to mention, very profitable pole barns.

I'm thinking of putting up a few thousand of these units on the property I bought last year. /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif If one developer can do it, why can't I? Anyway, the developer told me that his base cost per unit is only about 12 to 15k!! Talk about turning a profit fast! How else can you put up "apartments" for a cost factor like that??