Snake Guards (leggins)

   / Snake Guards (leggins) #31  
Long time ago heard of guys wearing stove pipes when bank fishing on the Columbia in north central WA. Aggressive snakes up there by the sound of the clinking on the pipes I was told.
 
   / Snake Guards (leggins) #32  
. . . Yet another expense you all have that I do not. Last year (Good Friday) I had an emergency ambulance trip . . . No charge, and no charge for a 5 day stay in hospital either.

OK, that's why the expence of preventive care is worth it for us with a $5,000.00 deductible on health care and no free rides on the ambo. The Ambulance ride is between $500 and $1000.
 
   / Snake Guards (leggins) #33  
I really don't know if the Kevlar jeans are snake proof or not... They're called 'Draggin Jeans', specifically made for motorcycle riding accident protection. I'm hoping there are some more knowledgeable woodsmen on here that can advise me on that. Too bad I gave most all of my leather riding gear away some time ago, including some leather chaps, when I switched to soft goods protective gear.
Good for dragging, chaffing,.. Not sharp pointed fangs. Don't forget good gloves, maybe welding type. A lot of people are bitten picking stuff up. Also don't under estimate the babies. They are as much if not more of a venomous bite, releasing all there venom.
 
   / Snake Guards (leggins) #34  
I read (somewhere?) recently that a female black widow spider has venom in her bite that is 15 times more potent than a rattlesnake! :eek: I am a little skeptical.
 
   / Snake Guards (leggins) #35  
Good for dragging, chaffing,.. Not sharp pointed fangs. Don't forget good gloves, maybe welding type. A lot of people are bitten picking stuff up. Also don't under estimate the babies. They are as much if not more of a venomous bite, releasing all there venom.

Good reminder on wearing leather work gloves all the time. I do, year 'round unless I'm handling rope (old Navy habit).

You're also quite right regarding baby venomous snakes, they haven't learnt to 'regulate' the amount of venom in their bite and will strike repeatedly, expelling 'the lot'. Snake handlers/removalists always say that the young ones are the most dangerous.
 
   / Snake Guards (leggins) #36  
I carried a baby copperhead around inside lowes for about a hour in a basket that doesn't leave the store. The handle pinched it's head as it was trying to get out when I picked it up. Just happen to notice it when I was checking out. Looked like a piece of rope tangled inside basket. When I turned basket around, It's head was sticking out about 3" through the putter side. It's a miracle I or someone walking by didn't get bit. image-3223802004.png
 
   / Snake Guards (leggins) #37  
Various comments:

a. The closest I've come to being snake bit was while mowing a field of Christmas trees with my DR Field and Brush mower [a righteous piece of machinery]. The snake was up in a tree about shoulder high and I saw him just as he drew back to strike.

b. Most people who are bit by snakes are bitten after they identify the snake -- i.e. people decide to fool around with it and then get bit. If you leave them alone, they will leave you alone.

c. I have had a venomous spider bite a couple years ago [probably a brown recluse but could have been a black widow, no way to tell]. Bit me right at the top of my sock while driving to work. The next day I thought I had bubonic plague -- what else turns you calf black as coal with a hole that weeps bright yellow fluid. It took two trips to doctors/hospital and various antibiotics before I felt ok -- probably 10 days total. I still have a brown patch on my calf where the new skin grew over the dead skin. Please don't mess around with this should it happen to you.

d. Have bought lots of stuff from Sportsman's Guide over the years. Most was OK -- just OK. There always seemed to be a little something wrong with it -- not fatally wrong, just not what you might expect or want. I bought rubber camo hunting boots and the girth of the calf area was way too tight [and I don't have fat calfs]. Bought sneakers and they had a seem at the back that wore through the skin on my heel. Bought skiffs to slip on when I need to run out for firewood and found the catalog photo obscured the lip on the back making them non-slip-on. Bought a metal detector and it works fine but it was really short. Bought leather gantlet riding gloves and they were sort of dry and scaly. In short, I think they tend to have this stuff at such good prices because real stores [Cabalas, Gander Mountain, et al] would reject it. Won't condemn them unconditionally but buyer beware.
 
   / Snake Guards (leggins) #38  
Various comments:

a. The closest I've come to being snake bit was while mowing a field of Christmas trees with my DR Field and Brush mower [a righteous piece of machinery]. The snake was up in a tree about shoulder high and I saw him just as he drew bac

b. Most people who are bit by snakes are bitten after they identify the snake -- i.e. people decide to fool around with it and then get bit. If you leave them alone, they will leave you alone.

c. I have had a venomous spider bite a couple years ago [probably a brown recluse but could have been a black widow, no way to tell]. Bit me right at the top of my sock while driving to work. The next day I thought I had bubonic plague -- what else turns you calf black as coal with a hole that weeps bright yellow fluid. It took two trips to doctors/hospital and various antibiotics before I felt ok -- probably 10 days total. I still have a brown patch on my calf where the new skin grew over the dead skin. Please don't mess around with this should it happen to you.

d. Have bought lots of stuff from Sportsman's Guide over the years. Most was OK -- just OK. There always seemed to be a little something wrong with it -- not fatally wrong, just not what you might expect or want. I bought rubber camo hunting boots and the girth of the calf area was way too tight [and I don't have fat calfs]. Bought sneakers and they had a seem at the back that wore through the skin on my heel. Bought skiffs to slip on when I need to run out for firewood and found the catalog photo obscured the lip on the back making them non-slip-on. Bought a metal detector and it works fine but it was really short. Bought leather gantlet riding gloves and they were sort of dry and scaly. In short, I think they tend to have this stuff at such good prices because real stores [Cabalas, Gander Mountain, et al] would reject it. Won't condemn them unconditionally but buyer beware.

Hi Dr Rod,

A) My DR Brush and Field Mower has been awesome- we had to replace the B&S engine on it after ethanol came out in regular gas, but the HF Predator replacement had been very reliable and the mower itself is bulletproof and a beast.

B) Too right, at least based on all the cases I have read about in medical journals, seen on reality TV, and seen on youtube videos.

C) Based on your description, that was clearly a Brown Recluse bite- their venom is noted for killing the surrounding and underlying tissue and leaving a black weeping ulcer.

D) Not only did they send me a mismatched pair of leg guards by having one each of adult and youth sizes, they also sent two of the same leg-either right or left, I couldn't tell.

On the other hand, I buy a lot of name brand (not grey market either) items from them and they have had very good prices on them- usually becaude they are the prior year's models.

Their house brand "Guide Gear" is pretty spotty for quality, and even for the name brands, you have to be careful, because they do get and sell a lot of factory seconds, and they can range from great deals (Irontown Carpenter Pants, which are relabeled E Schmitt or Walls brand, which are otherwise indistinguishable from nonseconds- no visible flaws) to horrible- (many of which I have returned over decades of buying (and then apparently blocked from memory, as I can't think of a specific one now)).
 
   / Snake Guards (leggins) #40  
Grew up in South Texas kill my share of Western Diamondbacks. I'd say 75% of people I know were bitten on the arm/hand while reaching for something. Nobody wore anything other than jeans and boots (too hot) and a .410. (Don't mean that's the "right" way)
 

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