So Confused and In Over My Head

   / So Confused and In Over My Head #11  
If I remember correctly my JD ztr recommends mowing on no more then a 15% grade. One of the things I haven't seen mentioned is the bare spots that ztr's leave in your yard. If your mowing a 3 acre field this may not bother you but if your using it in your yard you may not care for it. My JD ztr will tear the grass out by the roots with only one good spin so I really can't use the ztr feature anyway. I like the JD but will buy a standard turning model next time.
 
   / So Confused and In Over My Head #12  
I went through this last year and ended up buying a Scag Wildcat with a 60 inch cut and Kawasaki water cooled 26hp gas engine. I liked the diesel better, but didn't feel it was worth the extra expense, and none of the dealers that I talked to thought it was worth it either. Of the brands you listed, it's more important to find a good dealer then anything else. I wouldn't buy from a box store because I like to be able to go to the repair shop and talk to the guys in there about a problem that I might be having. So far, I haven't had to do that with my Scag, but I know that it's just a matter of time until it happens. Being able to buy parts for it is also important for me.

I paid $8,000 for my mower. It's a commercial mower, but I use it on my place once a week. I mow all over my land, but it really isn't used all that much considering that it's designed to run every day, non stop. Eventually, I expect to have more and more areas of my place cleared and will be using it allot more. I also do a few jobs for realtors in getting homes ready to sell, so it comes in handy for that.

As for cutting on a slope, I've found it to be very good at both side hill and going up anything that I have on my land. There was an area along the side of the highway that was too steep for me to cut with my tractor or my ridealong mower, but the Scag just hugs the ground and cuts it without a problem.

The only problems I've ever had with traction is in the mud. If those turf tires get muddy, they just turn to slicks and it's all over. Both times that I've gotten stuck, I made it out once, but went back again when the wet area was worse and I couldn't get out.

Another thing that I've read is how much fuel they use. I guess it does use a fair amount, but I can do everything that I want done, several acres on one tank of gas. I have two tanks, but have never ran out on the one and had to switch over t finish up.

I think quality of cut is more on maintaining your blades and keeping the deck clean. If I mow when it's wet out or even damp, the clippings build up under my deck and my cut begins to suffer after that. If I keep it clean or only mow when it's dry out, I don't have any build up and my cut is that much cleaner. Sharpening my blades is super easy. I have a bolt that goes through them that is very simple to remove. Then the blades just come right off and I can grind a nice edge on them. Total time to take off and put them on is just ten minutes. I've done it once, so I know I can do it faster the next time!!!

Good luck, take your time and look at as many as possible.
Eddie
 
   / So Confused and In Over My Head #13  
This is a tractor forum so it will lean toward that style mower. Almost all lawn services use ZTR's and the paper is not full of accidents. They are good for mowing and but they do have shortcomings. I don't like the way that most ride. Some will jar you to death. All the mowers you listed are quality ,but the same dealer sells most that you mentioned and Ex-mark leads the pack. Scag and Dixie Chopper are very nice and both are used on the local horse farms. Farris is going to be a force as I see more each day. Bad Boy is solid built but you might have trouble getting support especially if you buy at TSC.
 
   / So Confused and In Over My Head #14  
Simplicity ZTR
 
   / So Confused and In Over My Head #15  
I'm surprised nobody has suggested the front mounted deck ZTR's like the Grasshopper. I don't own one but from what I've been reading they are much more stable on slopes than mid-mount mowers.
 
   / So Confused and In Over My Head #16  
My neighbor has a Grasshopper.Its got a deck that goes in and out using hyd.cylinders. Its a really nice machine.
 
   / So Confused and In Over My Head #17  
Research, research, research.....plus if you are concerned about mowing a particular slope, an onsite demo to be sure.
 
   / So Confused and In Over My Head #18  
go ferris good cut and even better ride

built like a tank (others are too)

and for any ztr i wouldn't have it without a set of AG treads on one...unless i cut perfectly flat land.......makes a world of difference...
 
   / So Confused and In Over My Head #19  
Ahh, ZTR 's. I had a lawn business (part time) and an Exmark Turf Tracer walk behind with a sulky. I've used the riders too, but the walk behind was perfect for getting under trees and slopes that a rider just couldn't manage. I used it for 3 years in the business (7 lawns) and at my new house for 2 years before I sold it to put a mower on my BX. Never had one problem with it and it would have lasted me the rest of my life no doubt.
I wish I had never sold it. A ZTR is so much faster than a tractor and cuts down on trimming tremendously. They will cut up your lawn until you learn how to properly use one. You just need to learn to turn with the wheels always turning. Takes practice but once you learn, you will hardly ever mark the lawn. I have spots that I mow that are way to rough for a ZTR or I'd buy another. If I can ever get them smooth enough, a ZTR will be my next purchase.
Everyone likes a rider but I'd consider a walk behind with a sulky too. They are much better for under trees and spots the rider can't go and sidehills are much safer. The sulky took a bit of time to master but was fun to ride. I used to let people try it out in my front meadow. Invariably they would end up doing a spin full tilt while holding on for dear life. Eventually it would spit them off into the grass. Great fun at parties! Everyone loved it and most couldn't wait to try again.
My only advice is to try some out. The controls and ergos are more comfortable on some. The big box ZTR's are homeowner types and not as heavy duty. For your amount of lawn I'd go commercial. Much heavier built and will last you longer. The average homeowner could have a good commercial ZTR for the rest of his life if properly maintained.
For really good info, try lawnsite.com which is where I got lots of good info. It's a site for the guys in business and they are a good bunch who'll help anyone!
 
   / So Confused and In Over My Head #20  
I have an driven a JD 797 ZTR mowing the township park. Boy it is nice. Nice ride, good quality, and speed of cut. However, this is on a park baseball fields and not on hilly grades. Not sure I would be comfortable with it on grades. Although, I must admit I have never driven a ZTR on a grade so my experience is very limited. I think the best bet for you would be to see if the dealer would bring a model for you to drive at your mowing location. That should up any questions for you real quick.
 

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