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   / So it still doing it #11  
You would have a good chance at loosing if it was my tractor:cool:

If it were your Tractor it would be a Kubota with Zero problems and running all by itself. :D Well close anyway.
 
   / So it still doing it #12  
You would have a good chance at loosing if it was my tractor:cool:
How much you got to bet?It,s always kind of comical when folks can,t answer the orginal question asked.
 
   / So it still doing it #15  
Getting a refund on a lemon isn't unheard of. It happens... ..and it's cheaper for the manufacturer than going to court to fight lemon laws... All it takes is your refusal of any other forms of compensation and lots of calls to the right people... The dealer suggested the state attorney general which is a good place to start. Remember, the squeaky wheel gets the grease...
 
   / So it still doing it #16  
Getting a refund on a lemon isn't unheard of. It happens... ..and it's cheaper for the manufacturer than going to court to fight lemon laws... All it takes is your refusal of any other forms of compensation and lots of calls to the right people... The dealer suggested the state attorney general which is a good place to start. Remember, the squeaky wheel gets the grease...

That's right.
 
   / So it still doing it #17  
Actually, given more thought on it. Since the original dealer bailed on him and the same problem has been such an issue for so long; I'd most certainly expect the company to classify it as a lemon, as well as my money refunded. Kioti can refund the money and then go back on the dealer that left OP high and dry (walking away with 'money for nothing' in the process). OP can then take his money to this dealer who has been so helpful to him and let some honest folk earn their living...

Only way I'd let Kioti replace the tractor is if it was coming off the helpful dealer's lot and he was making what he would on any MSRP sale.

I'd also make sure Kioti knew the only reason I was continuing to do business with them is because of this helpful dealer and ensure they appreciated all this dealer has done to prove them to be an excellent company to do business with, and that if it was left to the opinions formed over the dealer that sold the "junk unit", you'd think the whole corporation was junk. Kioti makes a good unit and they don't want bad dealers bringing down their rep any more than any other company. It's unfortunate, but bad dealers have left stains on all brands in various regions.

I think as long as you "squeak" loud enough you'll get whatever satisfaction you desire, they're a great up-and-comer in this segment and happy customers are too good for the bottom line even when they need to lose a dollar or two on the occasional customer to keep them happy.
 
   / So it still doing it #18  
Getting a refund on a lemon isn't unheard of. It happens... ..and it's cheaper for the manufacturer than going to court to fight lemon laws... All it takes is your refusal of any other forms of compensation and lots of calls to the right people... The dealer suggested the state attorney general which is a good place to start. Remember, the squeaky wheel gets the grease...
It depends how deep your pockets are and how long your in court.Refunds are not automatic just because people threaten lawsuits squeaky wheel or not.It takes time and lots of money.
 
   / So it still doing it #19  
The tractor in question was bought in NJ, shipped to VT/ME? and then stayed in ME for a long time. The selling dealer did NOT make the tractor, they sold it from Kioti inventory and have had nothing to do with it since.
To satisfy the owner it will take Kioti Corp. to decide whether to exchange it for another tractor- possible, but unlikely. The possibility of a full refund is highly unlikely, regardless of any posturing by people here on TBN. A successful lawsuit would likely have to be brought against Kioti and the key word is successful.
The only thing I'd ever bet on here is customer satisfaction is likely a LONG way off. JMHO.
 
   / So it still doing it #20  
Wasn't a sympathetic dealer trying to diagnose? Does anyone have any idea as to what is expected to be the root cause of problems with this tractor?
 

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