Sobriety check point, whadda think??

LBrown59 · Sep 15, 2006

Ductape said:
Call me a TOAD !!

Anybody else care to hop in ?

greatrandini · Sep 15, 2006

A TOAD I am......

YanmarFever · Sep 16, 2006

Check points schmuck points, they remind me of traveling in a communist country, they can pull you over & demand your papers for anything !

I challange any of you police officers to spend sometime in china or Cuba driving around & you will know what it feels like to be pulled over while YOU are unarmed and at the mercy of the badge with the gun & additude looking at your wife like they can do what ever they want to. And sizing you up for how much $$ they can unload from you.

Im not saying that our police is that way, but as we loose more & more rights who knows whats down the road ?

Please dont start with the I ha** cops story, one of my best friends is the sheriff, and both my neighbors are the streets finest

maybe this is why I get flagged thru any check points

Bird · Sep 16, 2006

as we loose more & more rights

Ernie, I understand what you're talking about. I never traveled in such countries, but I did have the opportunity to get acquainted and spend a lot of time visiting with police officers from around the world.

But what many people here don't seem to realize is that instead of losing more rights, individuals are gaining more "rights" than they had 40-50 years ago. And those "rights" come at a cost; i.e., more crime, more tax money.

But yes, the pendulum swings both directions. If you're an air traveler, I guess you could say you've lost some rights since you have to tolerate some really ridiculous "security" measures.

MikePA · Sep 16, 2006

tractorErnie said:
Im not saying that our police is that way, but as we loose more & more rights who knows whats down the road ?

The infamous 'slippery slope' bogeyman which people have been 'predicting' for years. I guess Miranda is yet another example of us 'loosing more and more rights'. If you feel that strongly about it, contact your legislator, start a TOAD organization, convince others that sobriety checkpoints are wrong. If enough people agree with you, then the laws will be changed.

LBrown59 · Sep 16, 2006

MikePA said:
Exactly how do these 'campaigns' generate revenue for insurance companies?

And if you're referring to sobriety checkpoints (your post isn't clear about exactly what 'campagns' you're referring to), more often than not, they're funded by the federal (or state) government, who pays for the overtime for the police.

Like So
----->> More tickets = more money for the GOV.
......>>> More tickets = higher premiums for insurers.

MikePA · Sep 16, 2006

Yet another conspiracy to be concerned about.

YanmarFever · Sep 16, 2006

Bird said:
Ernie, I understand what you're talking about. I never traveled in such countries, but I did have the opportunity to get acquainted and spend a lot of time visiting with police officers from around the world.

But what many people here don't seem to realize is that instead of losing more rights, individuals are gaining more "rights" than they had 40-50 years ago. And those "rights" come at a cost; i.e., more crime, more tax money.

But yes, the pendulum swings both directions. If you're an air traveler, I guess you could say you've lost some rights since you have to tolerate some really ridiculous "security" measures.

Bird , if we put the criminals to work (I mean real work) the city road crews could be retired, that alone would save billions to any major city.Most of my police friends do not like to work the check points because they know to many people in town. But when the holigans are in line the fun begins!They could get around all this with (decals for drunks), child molesters, and other perps, then the normal folks could just drive on by, kinda like trucks at the weigh stations on the highway.Theres gotta be a better way.

AndyM · Sep 16, 2006

MikePA said:
Yet another conspiracy to be concerned about.

Do you believe everything happens exactly as you hear it?

MikePA · Sep 16, 2006

AndyM said:
Do you believe everything happens exactly as you hear it?

No, nor do I look for conspiracies behind every tree. I find it amazing that with the inquisitive press and whistleblowers around today that anyone could believe in a Government-Police-Insurance Company conspiracy. It stretches credulity that with all the people who would have to be involved in such a conspiracy that no one, no one, would say anything. Believing in such a conspiracy is as ludicrous as believing the rooster crowing causes the sun to rise or that the earth is flat.