Some constructive criticism, please

[johnday]

KubOta; Sometimes I do confuse others and myself! I think what you thought is an auger, is my toothbar and the scarifiers on the boxblade.

All; I've got all four corners tied down, but I think I might just weld some sofeners on the ends of the box blade, and run a "strap" across it for good measure. Those are 3/8" grade 70 transport chains with mating binders, so I think I've got enough strength.

Bill; You bring up a good point about the double duty regarding the disc. I just can't think of any other way to do it.

Well dopey me!!! /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gifJust down the street lives a State cop. We get along great, suppose I should maybe ask him about it.

Thanks for the replies, and more are welcome too. There's a lot of collective knowledge here. Even I've been able to help from time to time!!! /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Also, thats a 20' trailer shown. Not much room for anything else for you trailer shoppers out there. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
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[Av8r3400]

<font color="red"> MY OPINION </font> so, take it for what it is worth.

There is very little side to side securing on this load. The way I was taught. if you look at the load from above, it should make an "X" shape to hold the load front to rear and side to side.

I would say that there is no need for four binders, and (IMHO) I would think that two would be better. The chains attached to the rear of the tractor could be set to the proper length, then the tractor moved forward to "preload" the rear chains, then add the front chains with binders to secure. Chains are stronger than binders, why put 4 weak links in the system when 2 would be sufficient? I put binders in the front (usually) because the rear chains are stressed on braking and the front on acceleration. Acceleration stress is less likely than braking stress in an emergency situation.

Also from reading the requirements, 4 tie down points on the tractor and one each for attached implements. The "loose" loads on the trailer should have their own tie downs. I don't think sharing chains is okay.

Edit: Excellent equipment, BTW. Good chains and binders. I love your trailer, I'm very jelaous of it. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[beenthere]

Looks good to me. I don't think it will go anywhere without taking the trailer with it. Just watch that things don't jiggle around and some of the chains loosen a bit. Stop after a few miles and check, as well as keep a watch in the rearview mirror (hopefully you can glimps the chains to see that they are not loose.

Know the laws of your state.

 

[johnday]

Ohkay guys, I'm back from talking with the friendly nieghborhood State Trooper. From what he "remembers" of the laws concerning hauling equipment, he said there should be no problem, at least in Michigan. I made sure he saw the double duty the rear chains were doing. The first comment was, "Could you have gotten bigger chains"? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif I said I could have, but Jan,[ my wife], wouldn't let me.LOL The big concern out there is that if you dump your trailer, the load better stay attached. Noone wants equipment that weighs tons flip flopping down the road. /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif

Thanks for the nice comments about my "tools", and all the points of view you guys offered. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[thcri]

I would also recomend that you go to the corners and tie down the implements separate. Always remember if you tip the trailer the tractor should stay attached securely to the trailer. In the front where you are running the chain up and over the box blade and the bucket leaves room for slack and the tractor could slide to one side or the other during the tip and end up coming loose. I agree with the others and go corner to corner.

murph

 

[TheKid]

Since you mentioned dumping the trailer, it looks like the safety chains are are a bit long.

 

[rdln]

Hey John, have you tried storing the box blade inside the bucket? It works for me.
Then I loop chain through weight bracket over loader and bucket to tie downs.

Ends up being shorter chain with minimal angle

If my trailer wasnt torn down id loadit and take a pic.

the disk is gonna scratch that purdy red paint!!!

 

[johnday]

Kieth; Yes those chains are kinda long. That photo is with the pickemup fully loaded with a 6' landscape rake, tools, chains, chainsaws, and a bunch of pther stuff for my first trip upnorth this year to work for a few days. With all my stuff in there, and the trailer tounge weight I've got right now, I'm down on the overload springs. Theres probably close to a ton in the truck itself! When I don't have it loaded like this, I've got the safety chains alot higher off the ground. Maybe wouldn't hurt to shorten them an inch or so tho. Good eye. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[johnday]

Hi Steve; Yes I thought about that a while back. Can't happen tho. The BB is every inch as wide as the bucket. Thought I'd better check the site for final comments, I'm shoving off for Barton City in about an hour. There's trees to kill up there, ya know? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[John861]

I would not be comfortable with your front binder situation. I've always been told that the chain should be capable of securing the load, even without a binder. The binder is then used to tighten things up. This way, if the binder fails or pops open (the lever kind), the chain will only slacken, not release.
From your picture, your front binder appears to be holding the two ends of the chain together. If the binder fails, the chain will be free and load could move. If you have enough chain to allow the two ends of the chain to hook to each other, you would be better off. The binder would then be used anywhere along the chain to take up the slack.

-John