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crk133
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MikePA said:
Oh, I think it was quite obvious what he meant.
bugstruck
Platinum Member
"mjarrels has not returned to this thread to explain his comment. You are jumping to conclusions."
Exactly. More than a few jumping to conclusions.
Even if their impressions of his comment is correct I think I understand it. I may not personally have that same feeling towards an American of any makeup, but I could find some fault with a country or a people of a country who assist, fund or give safe harbor to our enemies. I'm not naive enough to place the blame on a government and think the people within don't have some control or authority over their government's actions. And I might just be myopic enough to lump them into a group and label them. We, including our news outlets do it every day and say it's OK. Just how you couch it that makes it acceptable...... or not.
It mattered that my mother was female and caucasian, how old she was, and if she was a lifetime citizen on an application I had to fill out for the government Wednesday. Let's not pretend to be too pure.
I like tractors too, but I won't lie under the wheels of a moving one. I have different opinions of the same thing, perspective matters.
Exactly. More than a few jumping to conclusions.
Even if their impressions of his comment is correct I think I understand it. I may not personally have that same feeling towards an American of any makeup, but I could find some fault with a country or a people of a country who assist, fund or give safe harbor to our enemies. I'm not naive enough to place the blame on a government and think the people within don't have some control or authority over their government's actions. And I might just be myopic enough to lump them into a group and label them. We, including our news outlets do it every day and say it's OK. Just how you couch it that makes it acceptable...... or not.
It mattered that my mother was female and caucasian, how old she was, and if she was a lifetime citizen on an application I had to fill out for the government Wednesday. Let's not pretend to be too pure.
I like tractors too, but I won't lie under the wheels of a moving one. I have different opinions of the same thing, perspective matters.
Tom_H
Veteran Member
MikePA said:
In the realm of effective reading skills, there is a considerable difference between the ability to draw conclusions and jumping to conclusions. There is not much that appears to need cryptic deciphering. If you want to stand in defense of his words, be my guest.
As to returning here, my guess would be that he has returned, but after seeing that others have a broader world view than he, he is too contrite to continue his polemic.
Tom_H
Veteran Member
bugstruck said:
So here's a woman who has given up citizenship of her own country, studied American civics, and sworn to support and defend the constitution of the United States. Yet in your wisdom, you infer that she may have "assisted, funded, or given safe harbor to our enemies" based upon the fact that she is Muslim and was born in Iran. Hmmm, interesting logic.
bugstruck said:
I think that statement speaks for itself.
bugstruck said:
Knowing, advocating, and doing what is right is not an equivocation of a claim to be pure.
bugstruck
Platinum Member
Does anyone share my American concept of innocent until proven guilty? Beyond that, what law did the man break? Must have denied her a job or something. He had a three word comment some are certain they understand. Now we have a flame. Brilliant. Over what, a dissenting opinion?
Nah, your right, string him up, he's the enemy
I can't tell which opinion or comment in this thread is the scariest.
Nah, your right, string him up, he's the enemy
I can't tell which opinion or comment in this thread is the scariest.
Tom_H
Veteran Member
Now to move on to something lighter.
So far, they've only let ONE tourist at a time go. They could make a whole lot more if they let TWO go at a time. If I had $40 million, I would gladly spend it to take my wife on a second honeymoon to an orbiting honeymoon suite. I can just envision it now, beautiful decor (maybe), delicious food (squeezed from a bag), but best of all: ZERO GRAVITY: WEIGHTLESSNESS: EVERYTHING FLOATS. Old tired biceps and knees? Don't have the cardiovascular strength you did in your youth? Not to worry at The Heavenly Honeymoon Hotel. BTW, I know there have been at least two different married couples who were both astronauts. Wonder if NASA ever considered letting them go up there together?
jinman said:Space tourisim...when you feel like you just gotta go.
RayH said:
So far, they've only let ONE tourist at a time go. They could make a whole lot more if they let TWO go at a time. If I had $40 million, I would gladly spend it to take my wife on a second honeymoon to an orbiting honeymoon suite. I can just envision it now, beautiful decor (maybe), delicious food (squeezed from a bag), but best of all: ZERO GRAVITY: WEIGHTLESSNESS: EVERYTHING FLOATS. Old tired biceps and knees? Don't have the cardiovascular strength you did in your youth? Not to worry at The Heavenly Honeymoon Hotel. BTW, I know there have been at least two different married couples who were both astronauts. Wonder if NASA ever considered letting them go up there together?
Tom_H
Veteran Member
bugstruck said:Does anyone share my American concept of innocent until proven guilty? Beyond that, what law did the man break? Must have denied her a job or something. He had a three word comment some are certain they understand. Now we have a flame. Brilliant. Over what, a dissenting opinion?
Nah, your right, string him up, he's the enemy
I can't tell which opinion or comment in this thread is the scariest.
I don't see any sarcasm in my posts, but I do in yours. "String him up"? I don't see any calls for that. "Innocent until proven guilty"? I very much agree with that, but does that apply to the woman? The last several comments seem to think it doesn't apply to her. "Dissenting opinion"? Hmmm, seems to me you don't want anyone to dissent with yours. "Flame"? Well, I'd say take a close look at all the posts here and see who it is that's "rolling his eyes." "can't tell which....is the scariest"? I share that sentiment.
bugstruck
Platinum Member
Tom_H said:
Tom, I'm not defending prejudice on anyone's behalf. But you may have jumped to that conclusion. I said I understand it. Huge difference. I get the impression you have mistaken my opinions on this matter based on some of your responses. I can understand that. Maybe I didn't put my comment in the correct person? I doubt you could slip a piece of paper between your and my stance on people and their rights as citizens of this Country. I think that woman's success story is a great thing and I'm proud to count her among us. Because the first error in prejudice is coming to conclusions before you have all the facts, I challenged some of us on being overly critical IMO. Hopefully, I provoked some thought and intresting reading. We aren't in a contest here. You're too bright and well written to think we are.
