Spacer/rim position Q

Looking4new · Mar 29, 2014

You might try these people.

https://www.fastenal.com/web/home

RG1 · Mar 29, 2014

vtsnowedin said:
Oh I hear you. I've often thought there was no reason that say a fifteen inch Ford rim should not fit on a fifteen inch Chevy or Dodge car hub. No good reason to have that many variations for holding the same loads at the same speeds. Not going to happen though so we might as well deal with it and find something more important to get really wound up about.

Wel, I feel I have a pretty good reason to get wound up. I'm into these for a fair amount of money between driving to pick them up and fuel, then finding I need some hard to find lug bolts. I'll get it worked out sonner or later though. I'm don't give up easy.

RG1 · Mar 29, 2014

Looking4new said:
You might try these people.

https://www.fastenal.com/web/home

Thanks for the link. Unfortunately they don't have the odd size I need.

dieselcrawler · Mar 29, 2014

Could you possibly use a stud and tapered (standard type) lug nuts? Then the studs could be long enough for either wheel no matter the thickness. Could use flat side of lug nut if one wheel doesn't need tapered side, simply flip it over. Be sure to lock-tite the studs in.

RG1 · Mar 29, 2014

dieselcrawler said:
Could you possibly use a stud and tapered (standard type) lug nuts? Then the studs could be long enough for either wheel no matter the thickness. Could use flat side of lug nut if one wheel doesn't need tapered side, simply flip it over. Be sure to lock-tite the studs in.

Yea, that's what I was thinking earlier today, and I think I am going to have to do it. Thread them in from the back and use a tapered lug nut on the face. Not ideal, but then, it's better than not being able to use them at all, and I really want to.

PILOON · Mar 29, 2014

There exists a thick tapered washer that adapts a std bolt to a taper rim. It also gets used to mount rims with the taper onto studs.
If I am correct small dozers use that system to drive the sprockets. Tapered and split as well to grab as it is tightened.
I have one left from when I owned a dozer.

RG1 · Mar 29, 2014

PILOON said:
There exists a thick tapered washer that adapts a std bolt to a taper rim. It also gets used to mount rims with the taper onto studs.
If I am correct small dozers use that system to drive the sprockets. Tapered and split as well to grab as it is tightened.
I have one left from when I owned a dozer.

Good info. I was wondering about that and have been googling all day trying to find something like that to no avail. Would you know the name or where to look or a link?

RG1 · Mar 29, 2014

I found this pic earlier, but have no idea where to get something like this around here.

A-Series Racing Swiftune C.V Tapered Washer

paulfun9 · Mar 30, 2014

RG1 said:
Well, I've run into another snag, and it is something JD does all too often. The lug bolts that are correct for these 955 rims are American std thread/size with taper for the lug centric mounting system of these rims, but my 4115 axle flange bolts are metric and flat head for hub centric mounting. No auto parts store (and there are a couple really good ones here) has them in metric of the correct size and with the tapered head, and neither does any JD dealer. One told me that he was looking at JD's actual chart for all their lug hardware, and nothing would work that was long enough.

Now I'm at a stand still. anyone know of a place that might have them for a reasonable cost? Size needed is 12mm, 1.25mm pitch, at least 30 mm long with the tapered head like the original JD lug bolts for the 955 (JD part # JD22)

A good place that deals with industrial fasnters will be able to set you up in short order. I was going to point that out but figured you had already understood that you would need to find different lugs or drill/tap the hubs for a second det of lugs so that you can go back and forth from standard to the replacements you got.
Me personally if the holes line up I would install a lug kit and then be able to change back and forth with the simple use of different lug nuts. Most of the auto parts stores around here couldn't help with a project like this but the Fastenal place in Pottsville would have something in stock that would work. I also would look at MSC industrial supply as they have an online big book and are close to my daily travel route so picking stuff up isn't a big deal.

RG1 · Mar 30, 2014

paulfun9 said:
A good place that deals with industrial fasnters will be able to set you up in short order. I was going to point that out but figured you had already understood that you would need to find different lugs or drill/tap the hubs for a second det of lugs so that you can go back and forth from standard to the replacements you got.
Me personally if the holes line up I would install a lug kit and then be able to change back and forth with the simple use of different lug nuts. Most of the auto parts stores around here couldn't help with a project like this but the Fastenal place in Pottsville would have something in stock that would work. I also would look at MSC industrial supply as they have an online big book and are close to my daily travel route so picking stuff up isn't a big deal.

I did run through Fastenal's site today, but couldn't find what I need. Being Saturday, not much was open for me to call by the time I actually had a chance to do so. Monday should be a lot better.