Splitting a TC24DA

[bgott]

I doubt it was demo'ed, IIRC it had .7 of an hour when I got it. I wondered about the same things. I have tried to think of ways that they could have tried to slide the two halves together with the shaft out of position and then tweeked it. I know the wheels and tires are not installed before the body of the tractor is assembled, how are the engine and trans mounted on the line for assembly? The shaft being used for a pry bar is a possibility, also. Of course we could just be maligning the well trained, well paid Italian craftsmen that assembled this tractor. Do they still let them drink wine at lunch time over there? RickB has a point on the lip seal. If you do something during assembly to pop the little spring off the lip of the seal it will leak like a sieve. Packing the back of the seal with grease will stop that from happening. I'm thinking that that might be my problem now. Being that the dealership techs didn't seem to have the slightest idea on how to do a proffessional job on anything else they did on this tractor it wouldn't suprize me. Although, the last time I got it back it took 20 or 30 hours to start leaking, the other times it started immediately. I wonder if they built a dam out of silicon around the hole so oil wouldn't run out right away? /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

 

[noeclark]

Well add your dealer A Good dealer being sold and still have a problem to your problem and you got mine.so don't feel alone your not /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

 

[AndyMA]

yes send me a PM. I'd like to know more. I know all the folks at Kahn and this truly suprised me. BTW I had a bad experience at Chappell in Brentwood (or what ever town the one on 125 is in) with an attachment and had a very hard time getting it resolved.
Andy

 

[tractorman71]

jinman, there probably isn't any "connections" inside the bellhousing to leak. all thats in there, is a shaft that goes into the trans.(see pic, it is my super M that I am rebuilding)it shows what happens to 52 year old seals/gaskets.it's hard to say where his leak is coming from, I cant see it from here.

 

[TCBoomer]

Well gentlemen...the jury is out. Yesterday I sent a detailed explanation of the circumstances to New Holland. I used their web site to send it. Is this sufficient or should I also send one by pony mail too?

I offered a few proposals to resolve this, including the possibility of me doing the work. Yes, I am still interested in doing the task, but not without their approval first. However, I am more interested in returning this tractor for another 24 or even the 33...if that will entice them. Probably wishfull thinking, but still worth pursuing.

If all of my proposed solutions are declined, I'll probably sell it. That decision is mostly based on my feeling violated by this dealer. It's not really all about the $$$, it's the principal of what has occurred that has left me bitter. Do I want to risk the potential of more problems or cut my loses now and move on. I am prepared to show New Holland that they will lose a customer and if that is their wish, so be it. I'm still optimistic that some type of solution can be achieved, so time will tell.

The balls in their court now.........

 

[TCBoomer]

Interesting approach...calculated risk. I have used this type of analysis before, but not with the monetary formula.

When I first posted the original problem awhile back: "Dealer service...what would you have done" the risk I took by not saying anything was limited. I had no plans to ever bring the new tractor back to them, assuming the reliability of the 21 would continue with the 24. IIRC, even Bob Skurka commented that why bother...I got a new machine. Well that gamble backfired and I have to pay the price. One thing for sure...I learned something. I'll go back to my old ways and be very vocal and demanding, even to the point of creating a scene. I don't want to give the wrong impression of myself, but when someone tries to #@#@ on me, I'll make sure it doesn't happen again and that they correct their error ASAP!

I really don't want to abandon New Holland products, so I'll wait to hear their verdict before I make my next move.

Sleep tight folks...I feel better already

 

[TCBoomer]

Those "small issues" are some of the 'finesse issues' that I'm concerned about.

I would split it at my own risk, but the remote possibility of something serious being the culprit, tells me not to. If I did open it up, and had to reassemble because of a major component failure...it would tough to hide the fact that it was split, from an experienced eye.

 

[TCBoomer]

You nailed it!!

 

[TCBoomer]

<font color="blue">I'd like to make a good-natured wager that TCBoomer's problem is not a seal at all. Sure, his tractor is leaking, but I'd bet he finds a loose connection is the culprit rather than a seal. </font>

If there was a way to prove it, I wouldn't even think about not splitting it....it would have already been done

 

[TCBoomer]

Sorry to hear that...

Your name rings a bell and I seem to recall reading something at one time about you having problems. Am I correct?