Spreadsheet and price creep hell

   / Spreadsheet and price creep hell #51  
To me... The best all around is a 4x4 35- 45 hp machine.
Its not huge, but you can get a LOT done quickly, safely, and you not pushing it.

How about buying a tractor that's 1-3 years old with low hours, you will get more tractor without putting the money in the salesman's pocket.
Try craigs list, offer up, market place etc.... There are an awful lot of people that are downsizing, losing jobs, or moving and cant take it with them.
I had to sell my Yanmar collection to pay of some scummy lawyers, so 5 people got excellent deals on a fire sale.

The deals are out there.
And, you can still pull that size tractor with most half ton pickups and a in many cases just a tandem axle trailer.
 
   / Spreadsheet and price creep hell #52  
A long story but I have learned to hate spreadsheets. Throw that out to start with. They call it analysis paralysis. My guess is at this point there is one you’ve looked at you like the best. Get that one.
 
   / Spreadsheet and price creep hell #53  
So, when I was looking, I really noticed there isn't a spec for how large a machine is/feels/handles. Once I decided to go with a large frame, 25hp, I initially thought the Kioti was significantly smaller than the TYM 2515, until I went to a deale with them literally sitting side by side.
 
   / Spreadsheet and price creep hell #54  
I really love my ls 226he. I went from a tym t25 to it. Tym customer support and quality really is not good at all. I was torn between the ls 226 and the kioti 2620 . Ls won on price and fit and finish
 
   / Spreadsheet and price creep hell #55  
I really love my ls 226he. I went from a tym t25 to it. Tym customer support and quality really is not good at all. I was torn between the ls 226 and the kioti 2620 . Ls won on price and fit and finish
So, you would be in a great place to advise the OP. What did you find lacking in the small compcat/large subcompact, that you addressed my moving up to the compact of same power.
 
   / Spreadsheet and price creep hell #56  
So, you would be in a great place to advise the OP. What did you find lacking in the small compcat/large subcompact, that you addressed my moving up to the compact of same power.
What made me really want to upgrade was to get away from TYM. While i was doing it i decided to go up in frame size. More operator room , more stable, better lift and feels all around more like a real tractor. The subs and large subcompacts kinds feel like toys. I have yet to need more than 25hp, i run a 5ft bush hog and a 4ft rototiller with zero issues. Also with the t25 i had the backhoe which was fine during the winter. But once spring came around and was switching implaments i got sick of the backhoe fast. With the new tractor i opted to go with out the backhoe and picked up a chinese 1ton excavator. That thing has been worth every penny.
 
   / Spreadsheet and price creep hell #57  
Don't have to deal with the dealers either i have always bought used from someone that takes care of what they spent there money on, they as meaning all kinds of tractors are out there you just have to look for them online is a good place to search and for sale books
 
   / Spreadsheet and price creep hell #58  
I am in such spreadsheet and price creep hell.

68 acres, large amount being wooded, marshy, some old fields.

I want to reclaim the trails I have out there that have 22 years of neglect.

- snowblowing/FEL snow removal
- grading gravel driveway that has had severe pot holes develop
- maintaining that driveway
- brush cutting about 3 to 4 acres. If it can cause your skin to blister, that's what I need to take down.

I want to stay away from subcompacts.

I have been looking at Kioti cx2510, ck2510, tym 2515, and ls mt225he.?
I have a 5' bush hog and 7' rhino plow.

Location is eastern ontario.

I have a mf35 that is only 2wd without a mechanical locking diff.

Is there a best time of year to purchase?
How do I know when to stop and just finance then and there?1
I bought a similar property 24 years ago, and picked up a used (1986) 24 hp John Deere 855. It is big enough to run most implements, like a 60" rotary brush cutter, and a 5' york rake. I've tried a land plow, but I like the york rake better for grading. Get one with wheels for finish work with come off for rougher work. I later came across a used (1994) 27 hp John Deere 870 with big turf tires, a back hoe, and bigger bucket. This tractor goes in the swampy / muddy areas that the smaller tractor gets stuck in. FYI, I thought about getting a snow plow, but I found that the tractor bucket acts like a plow. Excess snow mostly just falls to both sides of the bucket and satisfies my needs. These machines live outdoors year round, and still run great. No regrets, no mechanical problems, start right up. I paid $13k for the compact, $17,500 for the other. With age depreciation, and cheaper currency, they should still sell for similar prices. Watch the ads in the small local town papers, and be patient.
 
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   / Spreadsheet and price creep hell #59  
I am in such spreadsheet and price creep hell.

68 acres, large amount being wooded, marshy, some old fields.

I want to reclaim the trails I have out there that have 22 years of neglect.

- snowblowing/FEL snow removal
- grading gravel driveway that has had severe pot holes develop
- maintaining that driveway
- brush cutting about 3 to 4 acres. If it can cause your skin to blister, that's what I need to take down.

I want to stay away from subcompacts.

I have been looking at Kioti cx2510, ck2510, tym 2515, and ls mt225he.?
I have a 5' bush hog and 7' rhino plow.

Location is eastern ontario.

I have a mf35 that is only 2wd without a mechanical locking diff.

Is there a best time of year to purchase?
How do I know when to stop and just finance then and there?1
Totally get the desire for staying out of dpf and reasonable price. I have a Branson 3520 - and wish I’d gotten a little more power, as well as weight. People told me that everyone always wish they had a bigger tractor - and that’s what I’ve come to realize too! Keep it in mind, as there’s a lot of money to be lost buying too small and then having to upgrade.
 
   / Spreadsheet and price creep hell #60  
One caution. When I invested in my tractor, I went over the spreadsheet with my fiancé. She understood the numbers and buying the right size machine was not a problem.

If you buy something you "can afford" (or get away with) and it is not the right machine, spending a more money in a couple of years to upgrade can stress the relationship.

If you screwed up the first time, you lose credibility.

Nothing wrong with buying a machine that is a bit too small to get you started if both of you agree that it may be necessary to upgrade down the road.

This. When my wife and I first got married she was trying to convince me to sell my tractor. Now a few years later and her having seen/understood it's use and I don't think she'd let me sell it now if I wanted to sell it -- at least not without some sort of a replacement plan to get something equally/more capable.

Been a few implements I've bought since getting married that have allowed us to get things done that we otherwise wouldn't have (like getting few fruit trees planted while our young son was napping) ...and she's realized it.

So while I can't say it's gotten to freewill purchasing, being able to point out the time/costs associated with not having it ...and having one of an appropriate size (which changes the time required to get something done) has definitely changed the nature of the discussion.

It seems to have sunk in that the more time spent doing the stuff that needs to be done in/around the house = less time available to do the things I/she want done ("wants" which usually aren't that far apart).
 

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