Starlink

[Fallon]

The higher the frequency the more line of sight things are. 2.4ghz will punch through a few walls or trees. 5ghz may get through 1-2 walls if your lucky. 60ghz won't make it through a bed sheet.

The higher the gain an antenna is the more focused it is. The typical 6' antenna on a home router is around 2db. It compresses a perfect sphere of reception into a bit of a doughnut. Most people probably want around 6-10db of gain on their antennas if they are trying to go a few hundred yards. You have to aim it in the right direction, but don't need to be super accurate. If you get a 16db or higher antenna you need to be really accurate.

Most people would want a patch or yagi antenna. A yagi looks kind of like an old TV antenna & will tend to be higher gain. A patch antenna looks like a thin box.

You need to match the frequency of the antenna to your gear. Everything supports 2.4ghz & it has the best range. Then get a cable with the right connectors on it. Typically reverse SMA.

Outdoor WiFi Antenna BAS-2301 15 dB Extender up to Half-Mile for WiFi routers 2.4 GHz https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LZ7B46A/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_8G3W4BYVY0B2GZ3GSNFW is a hair high on the gain side but reasonable.

You will need an AP that connect to the Starlink WiFi as a client, or a wifi adapter for your PC or laptop. PC/laptop adapters tend to use smaller connectors than RP-SMA.

 

[LittleBill21]

The higher the frequency the more line of sight things are. 2.4ghz will punch through a few walls or trees. 5ghz may get through 1-2 walls if your lucky. 60ghz won't make it through a bed sheet.

The higher the gain an antenna is the more focused it is. The typical 6' antenna on a home router is around 2db. It compresses a perfect sphere of reception into a bit of a doughnut. Most people probably want around 6-10db of gain on their antennas if they are trying to go a few hundred yards. You have to aim it in the right direction, but don't need to be super accurate. If you get a 16db or higher antenna you need to be really accurate.

Most people would want a patch or yagi antenna. A yagi looks kind of like an old TV antenna & will tend to be higher gain. A patch antenna looks like a thin box.

You need to match the frequency of the antenna to your gear. Everything supports 2.4ghz & it has the best range. Then get a cable with the right connectors on it. Typically reverse SMA.

Outdoor WiFi Antenna BAS-2301 15 dB Extender up to Half-Mile for WiFi routers 2.4 GHz https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LZ7B46A/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_8G3W4BYVY0B2GZ3GSNFW is a hair high on the gain side but reasonable.

You will need an AP that connect to the Starlink WiFi as a client, or a wifi adapter for your PC or laptop. PC/laptop adapters tend to use smaller connectors than RP-SMA.

the 60 needs to sit outside or through a window.

2.4 has the best range in a NLOS design, thats about it.

starlink is designed around 100mbit, you linked a SISO antenna, good luck trying to attain 100mbit.

my link is plug and play, your design requires a router with a removable connector ( is only siso), you also now have the potential for channel interference as well, where the 60 removes that variable.

although i agree there are a million ways to do this, once the speeds start climbing, options start becoming limited.

he could also just throw a wifi repeater at it for 40 bucks since he is only 60 feet away, but he's not going to get great dl speeds.

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at the end of the day he has to decide how fast he ultimately wants to go. wifi is a variable. ethernet and fiber are not.

 

[bdhsfz6]

is it line of sight?

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you treat it like a long ethernet wire. you will need another Wifi AP in the house. and the ethernet addon if its gen2 for the starlink

Yes, it's line of sight.

Thanks for the link!

 

[John_Mc]

Is anyone using the new Gen 2 dish yet and if so, what is the router range?

I want to mount it on my garage roof about 60' away from the house.

If your garage is only 60 feet away, you might still be able to put the router in your house using the included 100' of cable (depending on how directly you can run it).

 

[bdhsfz6]

If your garage is only 60 feet away, you might still be able to put the router in your house using the included 100' of cable (depending on how directly you can run it).

This is a possibility but I want to avoid overhead wires if I can.

 

[TheMan419]

To me, that actually makes it less useful for long distance use. Wifi is horrible to extend hundreds of feet reliably. Much easier is point-to-point wireless or fiber, both of which require ethernet to feed. So someone wanting to locate it more than the 100' stock cord (or 150?) will still need the ethernet adapter.

We have an extension from the house to the barn (probably about 350 feet) that is very solid and reliable. We have an antenna on the house that is directional broadcasting the signal toward the barn. On the barn we have an antenna that captures that signal and then broadcasts its own wifi signal. Gives us great coverage out at the barn for cameras and general internet use when we are out there.

The roof top I would put the dish on is about the mid point between those two structures. So I might need some hardware to make it work, but this seems like it is going to make my life easier..... if Elon ever gets service to me.

 

[BigBlue1]

We have an extension from the house to the barn (probably about 350 feet) that is very solid and reliable. We have an antenna on the house that is directional broadcasting the signal toward the barn. On the barn we have an antenna that captures that signal and then broadcasts its own wifi signal. Gives us great coverage out at the barn for cameras and general internet use when we are out there.

The roof top I would put the dish on is about the mid point between those two structures. So I might need some hardware to make it work, but this seems like it is going to make my life easier..... if Elon ever gets service to me.

Point to point wireless and the various physical connection methods are ideal for transferring signal long distances. My earlier comment was that beaming 'wifi' was a poor method (i.e. via wifi extenders). Point to point wireless isn't wifi. Now that you've explained it makes more sense.

 

[newbury]

Point to point wireless isn't wifi.

Could you elaborate on that?

Perhaps we need a reliable dictionary.

I'm planning on putting up a couple of Ubiquiti U6-LR access points to shoot a strong signal around my house, yet also provide a signal ~200' away to my metal skinned "workshops" where I'll also bring the signal inside and route it around. I need the signal around as much of my acreage as possible.
My BIL "shoots" a signal about 400' from his office to house with a more focused beam and a pair of Yagi antennas. He doesn't need signal access between the end points.

I always considered both wifi.

What is Wi-Fi in simple words?


Wi-Fi is a wireless networking technology that allows devices such as computers (laptops and desktops), mobile devices (smart phones and wearables), and other equipment (printers and video cameras) to interface with the Internet. ... Internet connectivity occurs through a wireless router.

 

[BigBlue1]

Could you elaborate on that?

Perhaps we need a reliable dictionary.

I'm planning on putting up a couple of Ubiquiti U6-LR access points to shoot a strong signal around my house, yet also provide a signal ~200' away to my metal skinned "workshops" where I'll also bring the signal inside and route it around. I need the signal around as much of my acreage as possible.
My BIL "shoots" a signal about 400' from his office to house with a more focused beam and a pair of Yagi antennas. He doesn't need signal access between the end points.

I always considered both wifi.

Wifi is the _broadcast_ wireless signal a router puts out that allows clients in a circumferential area to connect as ethernet clients. Point to point wireless is a directional beaming of signal between two points with no ability for wifi clients to connect to it. It is something other than ethernet beaming on the signal - not sure exactly what is used. Wifi over distances requires repeater (extender) devices near the outer boundary of the circumferential signal range (where signal is dropping off but still decent). It is lossy and introduces extra network hops. Transferring wifi over long distances is unreliable and poor quality. Point to point wireless is designed for covering those long distances, even over many miles. Ultimately at the end of a point to point wireless termination you'll have to distribute the connection to clients via another router, either cabled ethernet or wifi.

It's all 'wireless'. But considerably different. It's like fiber and cabled ethernet... Both are physical cabled connections but entirely different in implementation.

Hopefully this clarifies.

 

[TheMan419]

Point to point wireless and the various physical connection methods are ideal for transferring signal long distances. My earlier comment was that beaming 'wifi' was a poor method (i.e. via wifi extenders). Point to point wireless isn't wifi. Now that you've explained it makes more sense.

Except both antennas ARE wifi. I can connect my phone to them via wifi and use the internet with either antenna. They both broadcast an SSID. Below is the link to the device on the barn. The one on the house I cannot find a link to quickly.... but it is much more directional. If you are "behind" it you do not get any signal from it.

Amazon.com: JOOWIN AC1200 High Power Outdoor Wireless Access Point Weatherproof WiFi Range Extender with POE Dual Band 2.4G&5.8GHz 802.11AC Wireless WiFi Access Points/Repeater/Router/Bridge Mode, 2x5dBi Antenna : Electronics

Amazon.com: JOOWIN AC1200 High Power Outdoor Wireless Access Point Weatherproof WiFi Range Extender with POE Dual Band 2.4G&5.8GHz 802.11AC Wireless WiFi Access Points/Repeater/Router/Bridge Mode, 2x5dBi Antenna : Electronics

www.amazon.com