Starting fluid

[Alan46]

Just use your other tractor to lift the loader...lol You can use a floor jack just hold the joy stick in the up position....

Thank you! I’ll be able to sleep tonight
This whole thing is stressing me!

 

[ROUSTABOUT]

What's your battery voltage? Have you checked it while running? Does it hold after you kill it? Sounds like you found your problem.

 

[Sawyer Rob]

Well the glow plugs are getting power 9 + volts.

What does the glow plugs getting 9+ volts have to do whether they work or not? That only tells you that they are getting volts, not if they work.

I'd want to know if they actually work or not, but I don't have a Kioti, so I don't know how to check their GP's.

SR

 

[i7win7]

Road service for the "big rigs" use wd-40 to test for fuel/sensor problems for the computerized engines

 

[Alan46]

What's your battery voltage? Have you checked it while running? Does it hold after you kill it? Sounds like you found your problem.

Battery voltage is is 12.6 sitting. It will not run it looks to be “injection pump failure and the cause was usually broken teeth on the gears that control the amount of injected fuel”
The shop is looking for a new one ( parts are hard to find, supply chain issues)
Thanks for your answer bro.

 

[Alan46]

What does the glow plugs getting 9+ volts have to do whether they work or not? That only tells you that they are getting volts, not if they work.

I'd want to know if they actually work or not, but I don't have a Kioti, so I don't know how to check their GP's.

Hopefully I’ll be able to know more when it goes into the shop this week I hope!
SR

 

[ROUSTABOUT]

Battery voltage is is 12.6 sitting. It will not run it looks to be “injection pump failure and the cause was usually broken teeth on the gears that control the amount of injected fuel”
The shop is looking for a new one ( parts are hard to find, supply chain issues)
Thanks for your answer bro.

Gears shouldn't break. Never seen or heard of that.

 

[Alan46]

Gears shouldn't break. Never seen or heard of that.

It was a very common problem with the 2004-2007 or so on the Kioti tractors.
It happened to me several years ago, several teeth broke off so we found a post on TBN that suggested turning the gears 180 and worked fine until last Friday.

 

[ROUSTABOUT]

It was a very common problem with the 2004-2007 or so on the Kioti tractors.
It happened to me several years ago, several teeth broke off so we found a post on TBN that suggested turning the gears 180 and worked fine until last Friday.

Are they plastic? Or just not beefy enough?

 

[Alan46]

Are they plastic? Or just not beefy enough?

Nope, metal.

 

[ROUSTABOUT]

Nope, metal.

Not beefy enough then. Weak components. That should not happen. Maybe an upgrade will be offered soon. Kubota parts may work but they aren't cross listed on the parts.

 

[Alan46]

IP is not available anymore. But gears are.
I have a very experienced mobile heavy equipment guy coming hopefully tomorrow to give me a hand ( or should I say give him a hand )

This is what I’m dealing with!
If anyone wants to see the whole process go to.

IPremoval-2881neches.com

 

[tacticalturnip]

Well that seems rather frustrating.

 

[Alan46]

Yes I’m so annoyed with the whole situation.
There is so much to do with that tractor. Just when the weather is getting warmer!

 

[Fitch]

Well the glow plugs are getting power 9 + volts. I’m going to call a couple of dealers tomorrow, I’ve had the best luck with a Kioti dealer in Washington about an hour away
Have to rent a trailer and winch it up.
The one close by is fairly new and I wasn’t impressed with the work ethic there!
I’ll post when I have more info!
Thanks everyone for your input. I know I can always count on the TBN family!

Are the glow plugs drawing current? Voltage at the glow plug can be present with the plugs not working because they are open circuited.

 

[jgmo]

I normally recommend to never use ether as it is so volatile it explodes in the cylinder and WILL cause damage. But, in an emergency, it's very effective.
WD 40 is often used in diesel shops for diagnosis purposes and is less likely to cause damage to pistons and rings.

 

[aircommuter]

If either is misused it will break parts. Lots of people break the piston rings then the engine like a drug addict needs more.
Like others said spray some on a rag and put it near the intake. Only for extreme situations or a tractor that was abused with it before instead of fixing the heating system.
Diesel starting diagnosis basics are white smoke with uniform puffs when cranking indicates fuel is present. Cranking voltage at the starter post should be 9.6 minimum. A rough way to check the heating system is to see if using it helps at all. Electronic fuel controlled engines are usually started without throttle advancement, mechanical pump injection systems need throttle advancement as temperatures cool. The operator should be ready to lower the throttle once it starts.
There is more but this is the basics. Hope it helps.

 

[5030]

Either starting fluid has it's place, just not on a compression ignition diesel engine. Stinks anyway.

 

[5030]

I normally recommend to never use ether as it is so volatile it explodes in the cylinder and WILL cause damage. But, in an emergency, it's very effective.
WD 40 is often used in diesel shops for diagnosis purposes and is less likely to cause damage to pistons and rings.

here we go with the WD40 again. Stuff is basically worthless. Have a gallon in the shop that is unopened and will stay that way.

 

[Alan46]

Thanks family for all your help!
My diesel guy couldn’t make it yesterday, he will be here tomorrow, will post when I found out what the hell is wrong! It’s looking more like the IP ( broken gear teeth) does anyone know where to get new gears? The injector pump is not available from Kioti anymore.