I've read posts where people don't care for the electric solonoid pto engagement that my tractor has, thus, the clutch. There is a Kubota dealer that posted in a Kioti thread that the electric pto is not the way to go. Time will tell, I guess. Mine has always worked well and I prefer the pedal layout, as it is user friendly.bx23barry said:
Steering Brakes??
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roccon31
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RalphVa said:
me too on buying the JD over the bota-even at a 6k price difference. i use my 4115 for plowing snow and loader and backhoe work for my business. this tractor would be USELESS to me had i bought the kubota with their braking arrangement. i learned to to run large machinery early on, and the proper and faster way to run them without abusing them. the steering brake is probably the most useful thing on a loader other than the bucket.
i cut sidewalks in with my front loader, i grade driveways, etc. i sometimes will backdrag an entire 1/4 mile long drive way in 2 or 3 passes with the front end off of the ground the entire time. i also find it very useful for cutting in large flower beds along foundation walls, and backfilling trenches along walls, etc.
i RARELY use my pto for anything, so having an electric pto solenoid works great for me.
i have tried running the kubota (bx22 to be exact) as my uncle has one. i couldnt STAND that treadle pedal design with the brakes on the same side. if however, you find them comfortable to use, then by all means, go orange! it does not suit my application of this tractor.
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roccon31 said:
Your post reveals a lot about the amount of time you have spent on a BX 22.
roccon31
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yes sir, not much time at all. probably 4 or 5 hours. i kept running into the side of my dump truck with that pedal, just couldnt get used to it. that is why i went green. i felt right at home on it with the jd pedal design.
as i stated before, if you find the orange style comfortable and it works for you, then by all means buy it, it is a great tractor!! it just didnt work for me having learned on a different style machine.
as i stated before, if you find the orange style comfortable and it works for you, then by all means buy it, it is a great tractor!! it just didnt work for me having learned on a different style machine.
daTeacha
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That's okay. Some of us who usually drive stick shift cars sometimes find out that an automatic has the brake pedal sticking way over where the clutch is supposed to be, and I think there may be a few who forget to lower the ROPS sometimes before going into the garage.
KubotaEd
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I frequently find myself with both feet on the right side of my B2410 and also my B7200 Kubota tractors, and wish the arrangement was a little easier to use. I remember how nice the old JD A was with the hand clutch and individual brakes on each side of the operator's platform, and I also remember the old JD D that did not have individual brakes at all, and sometimes having a real problem getting the turn made without hitting the fence or going into the ditch.
daTeacha
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One thing we need to remember as we try to improve the way things are laid out is that the brakes on a hydro are interconnected with the drive mechanism. They're more than just mechanical brakes like you find on older iron. I don't know that a hydro tranny would hold up well if a guy frequently locked up one rear wheel and pivoted on it like I used to do with my 8N and my FIL's WD-45.
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Rich, Thanks for pointing that out. I wasn't aware that there was any possibility of potential damage to the hydro. The videos on Deere's site make a point of showing users locking up one wheel to turn, and tout it as a feature... which it probably is if no damage results. I am more concerned about traction issues, and steering control than sharp turns though that might not make much difference to the potential damage.
yankeerider
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My first tractor was a Ford 9N, with the clutch and left brake on the left, and right brake on the right. You weren't gonna get your right foot on the clutch, and it wasn't practical to clutch and brake left at the same time!
My 755 has a wonderful setup. Individual left and right brakes on the left, but close enough that you can activate both with a single foot. The hydro pedals on the right have a single both-wheels brake pedal above them. Because I normally use the right brake pedal, the left pedals allow me to hold in position while I move my right foot down to the "go' pedals. Don't know if the newer JD's keep this feature.
My 755 has a wonderful setup. Individual left and right brakes on the left, but close enough that you can activate both with a single foot. The hydro pedals on the right have a single both-wheels brake pedal above them. Because I normally use the right brake pedal, the left pedals allow me to hold in position while I move my right foot down to the "go' pedals. Don't know if the newer JD's keep this feature.
