Steering while stopped

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3Bladz

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Why cant I turn the wheel when Stopped? Like when I want to do a 3 point turn. The steering wheel will turn about a half turn then it seems to run out of hydraulics until I start to move again.
 
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Is mine the only one that does this?
 
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No. Mine does it at least occasionally. I don't think it happens all the time but will pay more attention. I always assumed it was normal...
 
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When you are stopped, are the rpms reduced low or the same as when you start moving?
I know my Kama loves the rpm to get the power steering working good.
 
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No. Mine does it at least occasionally. I don't think it happens all the time but will pay more attention. I always assumed it was normal...

Update: My steering will allow for a small amount of movement while stopped (10-20 degrees of tire movement in the horizontal plane). RPM doesn't affect this. Even creeping will allow the steering to work.
 
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I haven't tried to turn the tires while completely stopped but at idle rpm and moving slowly, the steering is not great and very jerky as I turn the wheel, but more rpms seems to cure this.

DEWFPO
 
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My 'A' model steers easily when stopped. The only exception is when it is not warmed up. I backed it out of the shed this week when it was zero and steering was extremely slow. After idling for 20 minutes then running the blower for some time it was steering normal.

dsb
 
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Update: My steering will allow for a small amount of movement while stopped (10-20 degrees of tire movement in the horizontal plane). RPM doesn't affect this. Even creeping will allow the steering to work.

I just tried steering mine today. Mine is like yours. If stopped, the wheels will turn 15-20 degrees, despite the rpm. However, as soon as the TC starts to move, the wheels steer normally with full turns. Doesn't seem to affect how I use the TC, more of an interesting point.

I have a 5610 with 3 pt and power bobtach. I did notice today, if I lift the 3 pt and have the wedges on the power bobtach raised, the raising of the 3 pt lever also will also lower the wedges. Not a big deal but again, just a peculiar finding.
 
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The wedges are supposed to always have pressure on them to hold them closed. It is funny that sometimes depending on what you are doing they will move more than others. As far as the steering, it is a pita when trying to position something with the forks and I need to turn the wheels from lock to lock to jocky into a tight spot.
 
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The brakes stay on until you depress the throttle pedal. It is a safety feature.
 
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Try turning Horsepower Management OFF and see if you can steer while stopped. Worked for me. (D Series)
 
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Try turning Horsepower Management OFF and see if you can steer while stopped. Worked for me. (D Series)

Spudgunner

How do you like the TC overall with the Hp management off?
 
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Spudgunner

How do you like the TC overall with the Hp management off?

My TC had a Near Death Experience a couple of days ago. We are in the midst of a huge snow storm and the TC starting doing some "extreme lurching" when trying to go forward or backwards. Was intermittant, but most of the time I was having significant trouble. No diagnostic codes.

My first thought was water in the fuel; however, I noticed that the _displayed_ RPM was all over the map when the trouble was taking place yet the engine was purring just fine. (I figure I've got a bad RPM sensor, but don't know 100% yet.) Anyway, I turned off HP Manglement. I think I read that RPM and throttle position are inputs to that system. My theory is that with RPM going bananas, the HPM followed suit. With HPM turned-off the thing is back to 100%. Even after I get this thing fixed I doubt if I'll turn HPM back on. I accidentally discovered the steering thing last night while doing snow removal.
 
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Why cant I turn the wheel when Stopped? Like when I want to do a 3 point turn. The steering wheel will turn about a half turn then it seems to run out of hydraulics until I start to move again.

My 5610 F does the same thing.

Try turning Horsepower Management OFF and see if you can steer while stopped. Worked for me. (D Series)

Turned off Horsepower Management, still can't turn the steering wheel while not moving on my F Series.

Spudgunner

How do you like the TC overall with the Hp management off?

I couldn't tell any difference, but I didn't use it very long, I was brush hogging on mostly flat ground.
 
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Wow, these threads never die! In order to facilitate the 3-pt turn, tell your right foot to press a bit on the hydro pedal while you try to turn the steering wheel. Experiment some and see if you get the "feel". Works Ok on my TC; however, it's not like a four-wheeler's power steering.
 
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For future reference, on my F series, pushing the Work Mode button makes it easier to steer while nearly stopped. And also for lining up the quick attach, on an attachment.
 

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