Sterling trucks are no more

[WilliamBos]

theres only so much emmisson crap you can put on a off road diesel.. That will be the day when DPFs are on tractors.

That is coming soon. The New 8600 series from MF will have SCR on them, and I am pretty sure JD will be using the DPF, late 09, or 2010.

 

[John Deere 3520]

well thats nice.. LOL I still think diesel is the way to go and i dont think the DPF on the off road motors will be as strick.

 

[gemini5362]

Well now if we are going to quote fleets of trucks. I believe my brother in law who is a part owner and manager of one of the bigger cement pumping truck buisnesses in the United States and has a large fleet of trucks seems to think that the GM duramax diesels with the Allison transmssion are one of the better trucks on the Market. His company owns a big fleet of them. I know that their is a huge difference between allison light truck and heavy truck transmissions but I do know that the pumper trucks start at about 350,000 each and go up towards a million apiece pretty fast. The ones he uses have allisons. When I was looking at Motor Homes after you got past the 200,000 dollar mark you saw a lot of different engines in them. But a large majority of them had allison transmissions. When you look at the spread of expensive equipment that seems to prefer allison transmissions you kind of get the feeling that they might know how to make transmissions for different applications including light trucks. I pull some heavy loads some times

The early Dmax engines that were being talked about in an earlier thread had a big problem. It was fuel injectors cracking at the base. Now I am not a mechanic but I believe those injectors were made by Bosche same as the injectors that Dodge uses in their diesels and the same that Ford uses in their diesels. I believe that a new design bosche injector was used and GM reengineered their diesels to move the injector out from under the valve covers to minimize any problems if they did have bad injectors again.

I do agree about Ford Interiors they do look nicer than the GM interiors.

 

[mjncad]

Didnt Chrysler and Renault also do something together in the early 70's ??

I don't know if Chrysler and Renault did anything in the 70's; but Chrysler and VW did as VW supplied Rabbit/Dasher/Sirocco engines/transmissions to Chrysler for their Omni/Horizon econoboxes.

 

[mjncad]

It does not seem to matter what the thread topic is about , it seems to allways come down to a Chev , Ford bashing saga .

It was like that when I was a kid in the 60's, and I'm told it was like that long before I was born, and like the Mideast wars, the Ford versus GM bashing will go on until one or both companies go belly up.

 

[John Deere 3520]

I do agree about Ford Interiors they do look nicer than the GM interiors.

I feel the only interior ford makes thats nicer then a GM interior is the King ranch..

 

[Builder]

I feel the only interior ford makes thats nicer then a GM interior is the King ranch..

Probably true for guys who use their trucks primarily as commuter vehicles or big boy toys.

No way I'm spending $3,000 for an interior when I'll be trashing it with dirt, sawdust or concrete on my clothes.

 

[Builder]

Well now if we are going to quote fleets of trucks. I believe my brother in law who is a part owner and manager of one of the bigger cement pumping truck buisnesses in the United States and has a large fleet of trucks seems to think that the GM duramax diesels with the Allison transmssion are one of the better trucks on the Market. His company owns a big fleet of them. I know that their is a huge difference between allison light truck and heavy truck transmissions but I do know that the pumper trucks start at about 350,000 each and go up towards a million apiece pretty fast. The ones he uses have allisons. When I was looking at Motor Homes after you got past the 200,000 dollar mark you saw a lot of different engines in them. But a large majority of them had allison transmissions. When you look at the spread of expensive equipment that seems to prefer allison transmissions you kind of get the feeling that they might know how to make transmissions for different applications including light trucks. I pull some heavy loads some times

That's the view I take. If Allison builds the best automatics for off road, OTR and military vehicles, I'd rather have one of them instead of a transmission built by a car manufacturer. Look what Dodge did. They went to Aisin for their heavy stuff. Smart.

 

[milkman]

I'm not gettin' into this forray, but I need to throw this out, just to do some ribbin, I don't care how ugly the welds on the door hinges are I would still buy a RTV 1100 if I could afford one.

 

[Eagleview]

It was like that when I was a kid in the 60's, and I'm told it was like that long before I was born, and like the Mideast wars, the Ford versus GM bashing will go on until one or both companies go belly up.

What was that cartoon that used to be on TV a hundred years ago ? It was about a couple of dualing families , the old fella's would get out of bed , go out on the verandah and start blasting each other with scatter guns . I get a laugh every time a couple of these guys lock horns over Chev vs Fords as this picture comes to mind .