stiptic powder

Soundguy · Jun 16, 2004

I remember a while back there were some posts about a newer product that was going to be available as an emergency 'stop leak' for humans! Along the lines of a quick powdered coagulant.

Well I was out picking up some first aid kits for our jobsites.. and I noticed some were equipped with:

QR Powder <TM>
Stops bleeding INSTANTLY

Anyone heard of or used this stuff?

Anyway.. I ended up getting kits that had packets of this stuff... hope our workers never need to test it..

Soundguy

Degree · Jun 16, 2004

Swift makes excellent first aid products and ive been using there products on my jobsites since forever. They have a Blood Clotter that works instantly. I accidently cut myself with a boxcutter and i was bleeding at a high rate and i sprayed some blood clotter on and it stopped instantly.

http://www.swiftfa.com/

KiotiJohn · Jun 20, 2004

Not exactly on-subject, but in the absence of anythingn like the powder, spider webs can be used until help can be sought. My great grandfather taught me that one years ago. His old shed always had plenty on hand. John

LAGEORGE · Jun 21, 2004

This may be a Urban Lengend but I hear that Crazy Glue was developed during the Korean War and was used to stop bleeding until help arrived. I understand that it is non-toxic and binds skin together very well.

George

Burk · Jun 21, 2004

My oldest son was about 12 and helping us cut corn off of the cob. He ran the knife across the heal of his hand, he had a nasty deep cut. It was nice and straight. I cleaned it out with peroxide, pushed the sides together and ran a bead of superglue across it and added more the next couple days. He is now 25 and you can barely see a scar. They tell the grandchildren if they hurt themselves at grandpas, he'll just glue you back together

Freds · Jun 21, 2004

I expected to get stitches one time and the hospital used a form of super glue. I use it a lot now for minor cuts. It works well on dog's nails too, if you trim too close, and some brands come with a little brush on applicator.

Zee also makes a spray on blood clotter. I saw someone try it on a semi-deep cut for temporary purposes and it didn't work very well.

IrTxRx · Jun 22, 2004

Yep,

goes under the name DermaBond for medical use

KiotiJohn · Jun 26, 2004

Soundguy, since I first saw this post, I thought the product sounded familiar. Somewhere along in my career, I have seen this product. As I remember, it is only for use on superficial wounds, nothing really deep and serious. It is made from a polymer that is activated in the presense of blood. Keep in mind that you need to clean the would first, then apply the power after it starts bleeding again. You don't want to put it on a dirty wound and trap bacteria. The powder makes a kind of "scab" and will just fall off after a time. I never had to use any, but I did have to learn the procedure. John

Soundguy · Jun 28, 2004

I was hoping it might have been some of the 'hi-power' stuff that we were reading about nearly a year ago. I can't recall the original post.. but think it may have been some soret of military first aid powder.. and it was sopposed to work for even deep/bad cuts.. ( guess noting works for severed arteries though /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif )

Soundguy

Lazy · Jun 28, 2004

Hi
years ago we used a stiptic pencil to stop shaving nicks from bleeding. I haven't shaved in about 30 years it might still be in my old shaving bag I used when I was in the navy.

Charlie.

3930dave · Mar 10, 2014

Bump. :shocked:

Soundguy - any comments after 10 years ?

This time stuff is getting scary !

Rgds, D.

Bird · Mar 10, 2014

When I first started shaving, I bought a little box of "Itsapeech" styptic powder from my barber. It was a little round wooden box, maybe as big around as a half dollar and a half to three-quarter inch deep. I just stopped and checked online and found one::shocked:

Antique Itsapeech Styptic Powder in Wooden Container Paper Label w Contents | eBay

Anyway, it was a yellow powder and you could just touch a dry finger to it, then touch a spot that was bleeding and it stopped the bleeding instantly. I once even found when I bit my tongue enough to make it bleed, it worked great for that, too. Of course that little box lasted for many, many years, but when I finally went looking for another one, couldn't find one anywhere. I was told that it was so good it could stop bleeding where stitches were needed so the FDA made them take it off the market. I don't know whether that was true or not.

Looking4new · Mar 10, 2014

What was the powdery stuff the medics would sprinkle on wounds in 'Nam? Was it the same stuff.

3930dave · Mar 10, 2014

When I was in college, I went camping with a buddy who managed to put a decent cut into his pinkey - story for another day....

A week later, he was having a bit of trouble with infection. After going through some basic OTC ointment he went digging around at his parents place and found a tin of anti-biotic powder. I was over there when he was telling me how well this stuff worked. His mom got a funny look on her face, and said "What Tin ?".

Turns out the product was still kicking around from when the "kids" were born - it was about as old as my buddy !

Products that work Too Well, sometimes get pulled just for that reason alone.....

Thanks for the link Bird, and history ! That page has other listings showing what appear to be new tubes of powder. Kept dry, I'm thinking powders are possibly more long term stable..... :scratchchin:

Rgds, D.

Cat_Driver · Mar 10, 2014

One thing I've used for decdes is COMFEY powder.
Amazon.com: Frontier Comfrey Root Powder Bulk, CERTIFIED ORGANIC, 1 lb: Health & Personal Care
I learned about ir when a girl used in in teh 60's on her boyfriend who took all the skin off his arm by a MC crash - road rash. I used it on an exact cut 1) I went to emergency and had stitches, it got infected, left a scar, and took weeks to heal. Same cut I used COMFREY root, never got infected no stitched no scar and healed in a week.

Comfrey contains a special substance called allantoin, which is a cell proliferative. In other words, it makes cells grow faster.
Use Comfrey Root as a Natural Remedy - Natural Health - MOTHER EARTH NEWS

Dr. H.E. Kirschner, M.D., author of Nature's Healing Grasses (available on Amazon.com), describes one of his most interesting cases involving comfrey: "A middle-aged woman came to me with a large malignant ulcer below the eye and close to the nose. I prescribed a comfrey poultice and a "green drink" containing comfrey leaves. Soon after the application of the comfrey leaf poultice, the painful swelling subsided and rapid improvement was noted. Only a few months after the initial treatment, there was complete healing of the infected area, and the malignant ulcer had disappeared."

3930dave · Mar 10, 2014

Cat_Driver said:
One thing I've used for decdes is COMFEY powder.
Amazon.com: Frontier Comfrey Root Powder Bulk, CERTIFIED ORGANIC, 1 lb: Health & Personal Care
I learned about ir when a girl used in in teh 60's on her boyfriend who took all the skin off his arm by a MC crash - road rash. I used it on an exact cut 1) I went to emergency and had stitches, it got infected, left a scar, and took weeks to heal. Same cut I used COMFREY root, never got infected no stitched no scar and healed in a week.

Comfrey contains a special substance called allantoin, which is a cell proliferative. In other words, it makes cells grow faster.
Use Comfrey Root as a Natural Remedy - Natural Health - MOTHER EARTH NEWS

Dr. H.E. Kirschner, M.D., author of Nature's Healing Grasses (available on Amazon.com), describes one of his most interesting cases involving comfrey: "A middle-aged woman came to me with a large malignant ulcer below the eye and close to the nose. I prescribed a comfrey poultice and a "green drink" containing comfrey leaves. Soon after the application of the comfrey leaf poultice, the painful swelling subsided and rapid improvement was noted. Only a few months after the initial treatment, there was complete healing of the infected area, and the malignant ulcer had disappeared."

Thanks Cat !

I know how nasty road rash can be.... I'd buy it (knock wood) just for that. I know allantoin from some other product, but I can't remember what at the moment.

One of the nice things about many natural products is that they don't have the collateral effects that some man-made solutions do.

This discussion is reminding me of how much I wish I could still have a chat with one of my grandmothers, as she was well regarded as a back-woods healer.

Rgds, D.

OneMan · Mar 10, 2014

Looking4new said:
What was the powdery stuff the medics would sprinkle on wounds in 'Nam? Was it the same stuff.

That was a disinfectant mixed with a pain killer.. Super glue was to act as an emergency stitch until base hospital. It wasn't the same super glue you see now because you needed acetone to release the skin bond. Hospitals and Vets use a form of it today..

8N Ren · Mar 10, 2014

Have an extended family member who is an EMT, he keeps krazy glue in is kit at all times.

cletus99 · Mar 11, 2014

Walmart has recently started selling the stiptic pens. They are like 97 cents or something like that. Picked one up not to long ago when I saw them. Lost the one I had many years ago. I don't think the new ones work quite as well as my old one did, but it does work. I think the name of the powder we had when I was in the military was called quick clot if I remember correctly.