Straight Water?

   / Straight Water? #1  

wrflt

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2010 Kioti DK40SE w/ KL401 Loader
Okay, so I know this has been hacked out plenty of times in the past but I'm too lazy to try to find old posts.:eek:

I talked to my dealer yesterday and asked him what he suggested for filling my tires with liquid.

He has been in the business for many, many (did I say many) years. He said...are you ready....straight water. WHAT!!!

After putting this off for soooo long because I couldn't make up my mind on what to do from all the reading I've done.

He strongly advised against calcium chloride. Said they did that in the old days. It has a lot of salt so it will rust the wheels.

I asked about antifreeze. He said, "If it gets cold enough in our area to freeze the water in your tires, we both need to move further south".:p

I asked about 'beet juice".....He bursted out laughing!:laughing:

I thought, just to be on the safe side, that I would add antifreeze, but I can't figure out how to get it in there.:confused:

What say yee? I'm ready to do something even if it's wrong.:mur:
 
   / Straight Water? #2  
Well, it won't hurt to mix in some anti-freeze and if it keeps your mind more at ease it's worth it!

There have been a number of ways to do this as discussed before, and I used this one as it seemed easiest for me. I got an liquid filling adapter, a drill pump, and an empty 5 gallon pail.

1) Jacked up one side of rear so the tire is free, move tire so valve stem is at 12:00.

2) Removed valve from valve stem deflating tire, screwed on filling adapter onto the valve stem, attached hose from adapter to drill pump and another short hose length from other end of drill pump into the pail.

3) Put cordless drill onto the drill pump.

4) Mixed water and anti-freeze in the pail.

5) Started up the drill pump, pumping the mix out of the pail into the tire.

6) Stopped every so often to let air out of the tire and re-fill the pail with mix.

7) Continued until tire was filled just to the valve stem.

8) Re-inserted valve in stem, filled tire to normal pressure, removed jack.

9) Repeat for other side.

Worked for me! Here is a link to where you can get an adapter and they have good instructions for you to look at also:
Installing Liquid Ballast in Tires | Gempler's
 
   / Straight Water? #3  
That far south, I probably wouldn't be afraid of straight water. If you want to add a little anti-freeze though, it sure wouldn't hurt.

A plastic barrel, rigged with a spigot should work to fill the tire. Drill the large bung, and fit with a bulkhead type spigot. Any Lowe's or similar should have them. Mix your ratio in the barrel, and you're good to go.

TSC and similar places have fill valves. It is gravity feed, so it will take a while. Turn the valve stem up, as it will only fill that full on the tractor. Or, lay it down, if you have a way to pick it back up, to get even more in.

Just be really careful if you take it off to fill. It will be extremely heavy and awkward. Another reason I love my beam, and chain hoist in the shop.

I have loaded 15.5-38's on my Massey 180, and removing them is a piece of cake, using the hoist.

Yeah, Calcium Chloride is nasty stuff. Although a few years back, heard they came out with a non-corrosive type. Plus, if it happens to leak out, it will kill grass, trees, etc.

Back in the late 60's we filled with a 50-50 mix of anti-freeze and water, but anti-freeze was 89 cents a gallon then.... :laughing:
 
   / Straight Water?
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Well, it won't hurt to mix in some anti-freeze and if it keeps your mind more at ease it's worth it!

There have been a number of ways to do this as discussed before, and I used this one as it seemed easiest for me. I got an liquid filling adapter, a drill pump, and an empty 5 gallon pail.

1) Jacked up one side of rear so the tire is free, move tire so valve stem is at 12:00.

2) Removed valve from valve stem deflating tire, screwed on filling adapter onto the valve stem, attached hose from adapter to drill pump and another short hose length from other end of drill pump into the pail.

3) Put cordless drill onto the drill pump.

4) Mixed water and anti-freeze in the pail.

5) Started up the drill pump, pumping the mix out of the pail into the tire.

6) Stopped every so often to let air out of the tire and re-fill the pail with mix.

7) Continued until tire was filled just to the valve stem.

8) Re-inserted valve in stem, filled tire to normal pressure, removed jack.

9) Repeat for other side.

Worked for me! Here is a link to where you can get an adapter and they have good instructions for you to look at also:
Installing Liquid Ballast in Tires | Gempler's

Thanks. Are you sure you couldn't find one more step, just to make it an even number?:laughing: Just kidding. Thanks again, your reply was what I needed.

Gonna check gemplers now, then (because of your name), you planted another seed, so I think I'll head to the golf course, then do the tires this evening.:thumbsup:
 
   / Straight Water? #5  
I read somewhere here on TBN where someone used clear flexible tubing to connect to the large valve stem with air tight connection(remove the top part of the valve stem) then attach the hose. With jacks under the axle, let out all the air,then he lowered the jack to flatten the tire a bit, stuck the hose end into the antifreeze jug and jacked up the tractor, the vacuum sucked the antifreeze into the tire very quickly. sounded pretty easy since you need a jack under it anyway when removing the air prior to putting in even straight water.
Just have to be carefull that you dont lower the tire too much so the bead breaks from the rim.
 
   / Straight Water? #6  
Thanks. Are you sure you couldn't find one more step, just to make it an even number?:laughing: Just kidding. Thanks again, your reply was what I needed.

Gonna check gemplers now, then (because of your name), you planted another seed, so I think I'll head to the golf course, then do the tires this evening.:thumbsup:

#10 Put the cap back on the valve stem !!!!
 
   / Straight Water? #8  
Even in Georgia, I wouldn't go straight water. You folks don't get freezing temperatures often..but it does happen.
I suggest a little RV antifreeze in that liquid would be prudent.
 
   / Straight Water? #10  
Even straight water can cause rust eventually. I threw in a can of anti-rust and water pump lubricant. Available at any auto parts store. Anti-rust for the wheel and it won't hurt the rubber.
 

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