STUCK!!!

[Deerlope]

Will it work if the tractor is not running and can not be run, because it is under water or mud.

 

[laurencen]

years ago they fastened cleats on steel rims to dig out, a hinged device mounted to the rim, swung to the outside of the tire which will dig in as the tire rotates, once out swing the device back level with the rim, point is, this would not work on wheels rotating fast such as car or truck and due to the small clearance between tire and fender is reason 2 it would not work on cars, at $200.00 there is no way its motorised

In the old days of steam they also had a short secrion of chain, put it over the tire and attached to the rim inside and out, this is like a single section of snow chain used by truckers in winter,

 

[Superduper]

American inginuity at work, I love it. Hey dirt, I think if you're merely testing the amount of interest in such a product, you're not gonna get a straight answer from most folks without details. $200 is not that much money and if it's a well built product that works, I think it will sell. On the other hand, if it's a clever idea/gimmick that works but can be built using $3 worth of materials, I think it will be a hard sell and patent or no patent, I think it will last only as long as it takes for people to see the idea and start making their own. Most tractoring folks are practical people and will only purchase something like this for $200 if it works AND is considerable in design. Someone else mentioned that it might cost $10k to register a patent. If you truly believe in your product and is thinking of going large scale and potentially selling the idea to a large manufacturer, then it might be worth it but if you are thinking small scale and ebay or other low overhead type of sales, the that $10k might feel a whole lot better in your own pocket.

 

[BobRip]

Just to be skeptical: The patent system was set up and controlled by lawyers. So who do you think makes money on patents?
Large companies with lots of volume can justify patents, small companies usually cannot. I noticed that no one here has said they made money on a patent. I have not, but I only have 12 patents. My company paid for them, but they never made money on them either. Go ahead and start manufacturing, publish your results so no one else can patent it and make money while you can. There end of rant.

 

[wrangler6831]

Is what your thinking of like the device in the video. Watch it till 2:00 minutes in.
YouTube - Tatra 6x6 1986
Do a searc for Tatra on you tube, these things are amazing!

Rich

 

[laurencen]

Rich, thats what I would expect for $200.00 but folding to the outside of the tire on both rear wheels

 

[jmfox]

Don't be discouraged if you have a good idea. You don't want to be the guy who said I thought of that years ago. If you don't have the money take your idea to a company that would likely sell the device. A patent might be $10k but consulting an attorney regarding a non-disclosure agreement is much cheaper. Whatever you do legally, there is no way to protect yourself from lawsuits. The only sure thing is the satisfaction of inventing something and money in your pocket. One advantage the inventor has is a head start on marketing.

jmf

 

[vroom123]

Imagination is more important than knowledge -Albert Einstein

Thats not right! When I was clearing up from a thunderstorm, I got ditched in a mud bog!!! I got out but then had a lot of little jolts, slipping, probably. I put it in 4wd, and had it all under control. I thought that if I went up the back, because I thought it would be better for the tractor. But when I got up there, It was worse! So I took it straight back to my shed! Big storm... But it finally cleared up! So, like Einstein said,

Imagination is more important than knowledge!

 

[vroom123]

At least thats what I think "stuck" means.

 

[GordonR]

Dirt;
No matter what else you do take all your drawings and notes and mail them to yourself certified receipt required to establish a date time line for your going forward.
It is amazing how something that simple gets the attention of the legal system

Don

 

[jmfox]

Dirt;
No matter what else you do take all your drawings and notes and mail them to yourself certified receipt required to establish a date time line for your going forward.
It is amazing how something that simple gets the attention of the legal system

Don

This will not help you in court.

jmf

 

[Rara Avis]

Don't be discouraged if you have a good idea. You don't want to be the guy who said I thought of that years ago. If you don't have the money take your idea to a company that would likely sell the device. A patent might be $10k but consulting an attorney regarding a non-disclosure agreement is much cheaper. Whatever you do legally, there is no way to protect yourself from lawsuits. The only sure thing is the satisfaction of inventing something and money in your pocket. One advantage the inventor has is a head start on marketing.

jmf

Yeah...Look at Eli Whitney and how much money he made off his Cotton Gin invention...
Eli Whitney - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[jmfox]

Yeah...Look at Eli Whitney and how much money he made off his Cotton Gin invention...
Eli Whitney - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Yeah, that's why a good marketing plan is important. Do you think he would of been better off if he mailed a letter to himself?

jmf

 

[AndyMA]

2x4 and a ratchet strap are better than chain and a log!

At least the 2x will normally clear everything!

jb

Not on my New Holland TN with 16.9x30's. I have less than 1/2 inch clearance to the rear edge of the fenders.

Andy

 

[GordonR]

jmf
the letter sets a time line the same as this thread could be used for, if it got into the legal sys.
that's all it does.
Don

 

[jmfox]

jmf
the letter sets a time line the same as this thread could be used for, if it got into the legal sys.
that's all it does.
Don

It doesn't even do that. Ask any patent attorney, or if you don't trust attorneys look at the case law. It is not the envelope that is important but the contents. We all know that no one has ever steamed open a an envelope and re-sealed it. Why not send an unsealed envelope to yourself and put something in it after you receive it (maybe after a year or two or three). This is not reliable evidence of prior art.

jmf

 

[BobRip]

It doesn't even do that. Ask any patent attorney, or if you don't trust attorneys look at the case law. It is not the envelope that is important but the contents. We all know that no one has ever steamed open a an envelope and re-sealed it. Why not send an unsealed envelope to yourself and put something in it after you receive it (maybe after a year or two or three). This is not reliable evidence of prior art.

jmf

Publish in a magazine or maybe on the web (like here).

 

[jmfox]

Filing a patent assures that an idea is (1) in a form that is patentable, and (2) establish a day certain that a court can rely. There can be other ways to accomplished these things, but they are refutable. Even properly filed patents must be defended against variations so it is good to have a marketing partner who has the resources to protect your advantage.

jmf