Junkman
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I don't believe that these size tires even come in radials. Radial designs are usually reserved for highway use tires.
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I don't believe that these size tires even come in radials. Radial designs are usually reserved for highway use tires. )</font>
There are radial tractor tires, and they can be run lower. Most smaller tractors have bias ply and should not be run low. John
There are radial tractor tires, and they can be run lower. Most smaller tractors have bias ply and should not be run low. John
Junkman
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No question about there being some tractors that will come equipped with radials, but we were referring to the small sub compact tractor tires in this thread.
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Well, I can tell you that running these front bias tires even 2-3 lbs low isn't good for them with a load. /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif It's amazing how much sturdier the rear tires are compared to the fronts. Those little front sidewalls were folding over and creasing like crazy with a load of heavy moist dirt in the loader.
I'll have to look into the foam option. Hopefully there are a few different densities available, because the last time I had that done, it was for a forklift, and I know that particular foam would be like 2 rocks (remember the Flintstones? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif) on the front of a Sub CUT.
I'll have to look into the foam option. Hopefully there are a few different densities available, because the last time I had that done, it was for a forklift, and I know that particular foam would be like 2 rocks (remember the Flintstones? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif) on the front of a Sub CUT.
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Well, I can tell you that running these front bias tires even 2-3 lbs low isn't good for them with a load. It's amazing how much sturdier the rear tires are compared to the fronts. )</font>
That is exactly what I've been saying. Bias tires running at low pressures can fail due to side wall destruction. As a matter-of-fact, most of the articles mentioned adding a little air to the maximum stated if loads are going to be excessive. Junkman is not disputing any of this either. He's only saying that most small tires ARE bias ply tires, not radials that can be run low. John
That is exactly what I've been saying. Bias tires running at low pressures can fail due to side wall destruction. As a matter-of-fact, most of the articles mentioned adding a little air to the maximum stated if loads are going to be excessive. Junkman is not disputing any of this either. He's only saying that most small tires ARE bias ply tires, not radials that can be run low. John
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on a 2210, the suggested front pressure is 22, and in the loader manual it suggests adding 5 extra ponds of pressure when attaching the FEL. Might be worth checking the specs for loaders being attached versus off and seeing if other manufacturuers have like suggestions /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( As a matter-of-fact, most of the articles mentioned adding a little air to the maximum stated if loads are going to be excessive. )</font>
Good, cause even though the sidewall recommends 22psi cold, I was thinking I'd like to bump it up to 24-25psi cold. I figured there's less of a chance of blowing the tire due to a few pounds overinflation, than blowing it apart by rolling or folding it right off the rim while turning with a heavy load.
Besides, I usually don't care much for OEM tires on my vehicles, so I guess if I trash the OEM tractor tires, then I'll "be forced" to buy some better tires. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
Good, cause even though the sidewall recommends 22psi cold, I was thinking I'd like to bump it up to 24-25psi cold. I figured there's less of a chance of blowing the tire due to a few pounds overinflation, than blowing it apart by rolling or folding it right off the rim while turning with a heavy load.
Besides, I usually don't care much for OEM tires on my vehicles, so I guess if I trash the OEM tractor tires, then I'll "be forced" to buy some better tires. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( on a 2210, the suggested front pressure is 22, and in the loader manual it suggests adding 5 extra ponds of pressure when attaching the FEL. )</font>
That certainly sounds reasonable as those bias ply tire sidewalls just don't have the rigidity of a radial side wall. Max pressures are puposely low anyway and there's a safety range built in that will go higher. 5 pounds extra sounds fine. John
That certainly sounds reasonable as those bias ply tire sidewalls just don't have the rigidity of a radial side wall. Max pressures are puposely low anyway and there's a safety range built in that will go higher. 5 pounds extra sounds fine. John
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Ok, so it looks like I have to buy a new set of Bar tires, as the old Maxxis PowerLugs that my neighbor took off his machine are too damaged.
My dealer recommended I go to a tire shop if I want the tires only, and it looks like the Carlisle SuperLugs only come in an 18X9.50-8 front, as opposed to the factory 18x8.50-8's. The only supposed difference is the width, the rolling diameter is the same between the two.
Maxxis makes the 18X8.50-8's, but the tire shops are having no luck in getting through to them. So, can I go with the Carlisles that are 1" wider than the OEM Maxxis PowerLugs without doing damage to my MFWD? The new fronts (in the 1" wider size) and the new rears only have a .4" difference in rolling diameter compared to the OEM Maxxis turfs that are now on my tractor, so the numbers are telling me everything will be ok.
Does anyone disagree? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
My dealer recommended I go to a tire shop if I want the tires only, and it looks like the Carlisle SuperLugs only come in an 18X9.50-8 front, as opposed to the factory 18x8.50-8's. The only supposed difference is the width, the rolling diameter is the same between the two.
Maxxis makes the 18X8.50-8's, but the tire shops are having no luck in getting through to them. So, can I go with the Carlisles that are 1" wider than the OEM Maxxis PowerLugs without doing damage to my MFWD? The new fronts (in the 1" wider size) and the new rears only have a .4" difference in rolling diameter compared to the OEM Maxxis turfs that are now on my tractor, so the numbers are telling me everything will be ok.
Does anyone disagree? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif