Subdividing the countryside

slydog · Feb 21, 2005

Varmintmist, I couldn't agree with you more!

Mr. Subdivision, not everyone needs your help in telling them what color they can paint their house, or whether they can park a boat in their own garage, or what shrubs they can plant in their flower beds! My life is not about making your little suburban life better for the likes of you. Thats what I am moving away from.

I totally despise neighborhood associations, and I totally despise the people who create them and choose to belong to them. Personally, I don't want you, or need you for my neighbor if you feel you must intrude AT ALL on my life. I don't care what kind of person you are. It's bad enough that we are so over regulated, and taxed to the hilt by every federal, state, and municaplity. Now we have to worry about people with your mentaltity trying to regulate the rest of our lives with your quasi-governmental idiotic neighborhood associations. If I choose not to buy into your little "neighborhood association" crock, don't be trying to force any of it on me, or expect me to put up with it. And I do have the nerve, as well as the right to say it (untill its regulated away by one or more of the above)....if you don't like that, then GO SOMEWHERE ELSE! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

goodoleboy · Feb 21, 2005

Im not a fan of some retired guy telling me what to do in HOA. My Brother lives in an HOA community, yeah it looks nice but most of the residents have all the time in the world to mow the lawn 2 times a week, rake leaves etc...

One cant blame city folk for moving out, they are just like everyone else and want to have a good life. If you want to blame someone, blame the person that sold the Land to the developer or yourself for not buying it.

CtRick · Feb 21, 2005

( One cant blame city folk for moving out, they are just like everyone else and want to have a good life. If you want to blame someone, blame the person that sold the Land to the developer )

I couldn't agree more. I moved from a city to the least developed part of my town, but that is changing fast. I have already told some of my neighbors that I will buy their homes and or land when they are ready to sell. I just hope I can afford to when the time comes. The richest people in my town are the old farmers. It seems that, at least around here, they have no sentimental attachment to the family land at all. Five acres of developable land in my town makes you a millionaire. Those with 100's of acres have some pretty deep pockets. The farmers here are the ones who oppose any attempt to slow down development.

Rick

riptides · Feb 21, 2005

( One cant blame city folk for moving out, they are just like everyone else and want to have a good life. If you want to blame someone, blame the person that sold the Land to the developer)

Yes! And blame your county/state officials for letting it happen. If sub-divisions are so bad, and making matters "worse" how come so many are going up?

( I couldn't agree more. I moved from a city to the least developed part of my town, but that is changing fast. I have already told some of my neighbors that I will buy their homes and or land when they are ready to sell. I just hope I can afford to when the time comes. The richest people in my town are the old farmers. It seems that, at least around here, they have no sentimental attachment to the family land at all. Five acres of developable land in my town makes you a millionaire. Those with 100's of acres have some pretty deep pockets. The farmers here are the ones who oppose any attempt to slow down development.

Rick )

Every planning meeting I ever went to in my county the rural folks are the ones dictating policy. Don't tell me what I can do with my land. While they carve off corners and create the very problem they so profess to hate. Give me a break, you cannot have it both ways.

-Mike Z. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

LarryRB · Feb 21, 2005

where in Ct is this happening? I didn't think there was more than a 20 acre farm left, it that.

CtRick · Feb 21, 2005

I live in Cheshire, near Wallingford. Cheshire is the "bedding plant capitol" of the state, so there is a good number of farms left. There is even a 40 acre Christmas tree farm not too far from my house. For now, it'll probably be 160 age-restricted homes within the next 10 years /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif.

Rick

LarryRB · Feb 21, 2005

I'm up top at the end on I 84 and there are a few left over farm tracts left. None are operating as I know... The developers have tried hard to come in and so far they've been held at bay.. The old timers here won't get involved with outsiders or city people that want to carve things up. It happens now and then, but no where like in most places. Now, another 200 ft from me is Holland MA and there, their building on anything that is dry for more than 2 days.. That, is the town I refer to in previous posts as I was a selectman there long time ago.. the zoning is constantly being changed yearly, to benefit a handful of builders... I hate in a rural area and all of a sudden come up on housing tracks where the homes are 50 ft from each other,,,

penokee · Feb 21, 2005

Fired-up after reading the many good posts. My two cents worth.
1. Have worked for some form of government for the past 50 years, and can only say There's Too Much Government at Every Level.
2. Laws were passed by well intentioned politicians, that have turned into nightmares after the Beauracrats add their Rules, Regulations, etc. The main one is the Environmental Policy Act of 1970, which every state DEQ and many Environmental Organizations use to stop just about everything you may want to do on your private property. I even need a "Cutting Permit" to cut down my own trees - the County says why are you complaing it doesn't cost anything. Yeah!
3. Government employees have forgot that EVERYTHING in their organization is owned by We The People. We vote in Politicians who hire Managers and Administrators who in turn hire employees to manage the peoples assets. Too often I have heard a govt. employee refer to somehting as "Our Land", "Our Buildings", etc. I never miss an opportunity to give them a basic lesson in Civics.
4. Zoning Committes are too often composed of people that don't own land or manage it, but know how to manage yours. A local Zoning Committte has stopped people from removing gravel from thier own land - They claim it's unsightly, etc. Some owners with $ are fighting them in court, but it's expensive and may be a losing venture.

Those of you that are Hunters and Gun Owners may be aware that their are over 20,000 Gun Laws on the books and many still want to take away our 2nd Amendment Rights. It wont be long and their will be that many Environmental, OSHA, etc. type laws on the books (I realize some of these are needed - but not overkill) and many will try to add more until the Constitutional Right to enjoy the free and quiet use of your land is taken away.
How can this be corrected? Elect only those official that are sensitive to Individual Rights and are willing to fight for change. Enough rambling, I'm working myself up and now have to take a double High Blood Pressure med. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
penokee

Bird · Feb 22, 2005

( There's Too Much Government at Every Level )

Penokee, I'm sure you have wondered, as I have, why we have so many laws, statutes, ordinances, and regulations. If an elected legislator, at any level, does not introduce, sponsor, or support new legislation, the news media will tell the voters that he/she is not doing anything; i.e., not doing his/her job. I suppose I could be wrong (wouldn't be the first time), but I think many of our laws materialize just so some legislator can say, "I did it" in hopes it will help at election time.

slydog · Feb 22, 2005

Here's an interesting current event that I think is relevant to this discussion. Regarding the Supreme Courts hearing on the New London, Conn. residents fight against eminent domain for private development. STORY
Seems the only rights the city of New London thinks these homeowners have is the "right to remain silent". I wonder if the Supreme Court will also interpret it that way.

Ken