Subsoiler/Middle Buster

[SSdoxie]

I have, should say had until today, the KK XB combo unit. Purchased mine from TSC with County Line name but is exact same as KK. First to note this is dimensioned to fit a SCUT, has narower lift point width and lower top link height. I modified it to fit my Quick Hitch, no problem until today when cutting a ditch through the yard for the TV dish cable.
Below is pictured what can happen when it meets an imoveable object with too much traction. Snagged a stump I had cut off below ground level few years go and forgot about it. I can't blame it all on the subsoiler. It was doing a great job on roots and I did stop when it first hit the stump but thinking it was another root I raised it a few inches and tried again. That time the tip of the tooth was against the stump and just folded it back.

Think I will upgrade to a little stronger version.

 

[IslandTractor]

I have, should say had until today, the KK XB combo unit. Purchased mine from TSC with County Line name but is exact same as KK. First to note this is dimensioned to fit a SCUT, has narower lift point width and lower top link height. I modified it to fit my Quick Hitch, no problem until today when cutting a ditch through the yard for the TV dish cable.
Below is pictured what can happen when it meets an imoveable object with too much traction. Snagged a stump I had cut off below ground level few years go and forgot about it. I can't blame it all on the subsoiler. It was doing a great job on roots and I did stop when it first hit the stump but thinking it was another root I raised it a few inches and tried again. That time the tip of the tooth was against the stump and just folded it back.

Think I will upgrade to a little stronger version.

Excellent evidence that a CT225 is not a SCUT even though it puts out the same HP as a BX25.

 

[case245]

i was thinking of getting a middler buster from tsc a cheap one not if a 225 bc can do that my l3800 kubota will im guessi do more to it who makes a better one i didnt wanta spend an arm n a leg i only use it for my strewberry patch

 

[IslandTractor]

I recall Leinbach makes a subsoiler/middle buster that is good quality without being as expensive as the Fred Cain type. At least that is what my fading memory tells me.:confused2:

 

[Don87]

I recall Leinbach makes a subsoiler/middle buster that is good quality without being as expensive as the Fred Cain type. At least that is what my fading memory tells me.:confused2:

Subsoiler : Leinbach Machinery, Implements and attachments for agriculture and landscaping


http://www.everythingattachments.co...Subsoiler-S-2-p/lbc-subsoiler-3pt-cain-s2.htm


Appears the the Fred Cain is cheaper.

 

[IslandTractor]

Subsoiler : Leinbach Machinery, Implements and attachments for agriculture and landscaping


Fred Cain Tractor 3 Point Hitch Subsoiler S-2


Appears the the Fred Cain is cheaper.

You are right. This King Kutter Professional is cheaper yet but much stronger than the SCUT model.

I guess it depends on how deep you want to go.

 

[JoelT]

From what I've been seeing and reading here you can probably go by weight. The 100lb units are tough and the 50lb ones aren't as tough.

 

[NHmitch]

I use the middle buster from TSC. It is not the subcompact version that has the subsoiler blade. The reason I went with this one, was because I had read the reviews on TSC about the smaller version breaking like in the photos in this thread. I have very rocky soil in New Hampshire with large chunks of granite, and I have hit several of them, and the middle buster actually pulled them out of the ground without a mark on the unit. They redesigned it a bit, and TSC's 3 point equipment is made by King Kutter for the most part. Again, I have been very happy with this You can see the design differences between this one, and the lighter orange model that they sell. I would recomend it, and they go on sale a lot.
CountyLine Middle Buster - 2128228 | Tractor Supply Company

 

[terraformer]

NHmitch
Nice Bolens

I worked on my home-made trencher today.
I found that the operation kept working better as I brought the tiller blade back so I put a second bolt which gave me a point just less than the furthest that it would reach down and then two more settings. Just welded on a 10mm bolt on the side.

I have noticed that about an inch has been worn off the blade I think I will turn it around.

 

[schoolsout]

I use the middle buster from TSC. It is not the subcompact version that has the subsoiler blade. The reason I went with this one, was because I had read the reviews on TSC about the smaller version breaking like in the photos in this thread. I have very rocky soil in New Hampshire with large chunks of granite, and I have hit several of them, and the middle buster actually pulled them out of the ground without a mark on the unit. They redesigned it a bit, and TSC's 3 point equipment is made by King Kutter for the most part. Again, I have been very happy with this You can see the design differences between this one, and the lighter orange model that they sell. I would recomend it, and they go on sale a lot.
CountyLine Middle Buster - 2128228 | Tractor Supply Company

I'm currently looking at that middle buster and subsoiler. Lots of stumps in the ground and I'm sure I'll be finding them.

 

[PhysAssist]

Mr. Biseki,

Pardon my ignorance, but did you weld that harrow tine to your Quick Hitch?

I can't imagine how it would have been held in place there for digging otherwise, and it sure looks like it's welded there on the rear view of the assembly, but I guess it sort of took me by surprise that you'd make it that permanent a mount- though I guess you could just unscrew the nuts and change the "blade" that way.

...Or break the weld and grind off any offending residue...

Thanks,
Thomas

 

[Baby Grand]

Mr. Biseki,

Pardon my ignorance, but did you weld that harrow tine to your Quick Hitch?

I can't imagine how it would have been held in place there for digging otherwise, and it sure looks like it's welded there on the rear view of the assembly, but I guess it sort of took me by surprise that you'd make it that permanent a mount- though I guess you could just unscrew the nuts and change the "blade" that way.

...Or break the weld and grind off any offending residue...

Thanks,
Thomas

From his description & picture in post 29 I take it he welded a bolt (at the head) to the aft end of his quick hitch. He then attached the shank with a nut to that aft bolt and a second bolt and nut thru one of the 3 forward shank holes?

 

[PhysAssist]

From his description & picture in post 29 I take it he welded a bolt (at the head) to the aft end of his quick hitch. He then attached the shank with a nut to that aft bolt and a second bolt and nut thru one of the 3 forward shank holes?

That's what I thought, but I just wanted to be sure.
I like my/QH, so I think I'll figure a different attachment method..l

Thx,
T

 

[Huskerfan]

Reviving this old thread. This ripper built by Greg at Heavy Hitch is a versatile and useful tool designed for SCUTs, and mounts to any 2 inch receiver. The ripper worked well to break up compaction before using a Kuhn tiller and before reseeding the lawn. Using a crisscrossing pattern and maintaining a 6-8 inch depth, the Kubota BX2200 pulled it well. Tree roots, rocks, and hard compaction were all loosened up plus an inadvertent cutting of 4 inch flex drainage tile! This was all done after landscaping machinery and trucks had torn up the yard.
The tractor has front end ballast and rear wheel weights on ag tires, traction was adequate. The ripper was held down (no draft on 3 pt) with 120 lbs of Olympic free weights with the adapters set screwed tight to tube steel over a 32 inch Long 5/8 rod, substituted for the standard top link pin. This set up would also work as rear ballast for FEL work.

Haven't tried the middle buster yet.

If interested check out:

heavyhitch.com/

Greg shipped it out fast, ordered on a Thursday and had it Monday.

 

[IslandTractor]

Reviving this old thread. This ripper built by Greg at Heavy Hitch is a versatile and useful tool designed for SCUTs, and mounts to any 2 inch receiver. The ripper worked well to break up compaction before using a Kuhn tiller and before reseeding the lawn. Using a crisscrossing pattern and maintaining a 6-8 inch depth, the Kubota BX2200 pulled it well. Tree roots, rocks, and hard compaction were all loosened up plus an inadvertent cutting of 4 inch flex drainage tile! This was all done after landscaping machinery and trucks had torn up the yard. The tractor has front end ballast and rear wheel weights on ag tires, traction was adequate. The ripper was held down (no draft on 3 pt) with 120 lbs of Olympic free weights with the adapters set screwed tight to tube steel over a 32 inch Long 5/8 rod, substituted for the standard top link pin. This set up would also work as rear ballast for FEL work. Haven't tried the middle buster yet. If interested check out: heavyhitch.com/ Greg shipped it out fast, ordered on a Thursday and had it Monday.

Nice example of "work with what you have" ingenuity. Small tractors can do a lot of work if set up properly.