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That shared deal sounds pretty good, can be a minefield in some cases if personalities get in the way. Or it can be fine for years. You may be better off with a small tractor as the guy with the biggest one may wind up doing most of the work.

Given that the big jobs are now being farmed out, what tasks are you going to be asking of a tractor? Some road work, ok, but what else?

jb
 
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John, I will be spreading gravel I need under the new basement floor before the mason's pour concrete, backfill around the addition, move roofing material from my parking area to the building (no rooftop delivery avaliable). Using the machine for general duty to save my back. After the addition is complete working on my parking lot and driveway spreading more gravel (I have bankrun now). Removing some decaying tree stumps along with a few trees to fell. I also have plans to remove an old decaying railroad timber retaing wall and build a replacement retaining wall using landscape block. This wall will be 48" tall maybe 15-20 ft long. After that is complete, Iwill be building a new replacement shed then preparing to build a 2 1/2 car garage. These are the biggest projects I have planned and the other tasks are landscaping projects. What do you think about the bx24 handiling these type of tasks?
 
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Easy,

I have a BX24 and am approaching the 400 hour mark. I have completed many projects including: trenching, minor excavation, stump removal, landscaping, material spreading and demolition to name a few. I have also spent many hours cutting grass lawn, rotary cutting fields, rototilling, and removing snow. I can't tell you how happy I am with this machine! All the things you list in post 22 can be accomplished with ease. That being said. It is unrealistic to use this tractor to excavate a foundation or to complete regular snow removal on a half mile road/driveway.

My advice as well as many others is to take your time and try many differrent machines to find what you need/want and what fits you best. For me the BX24 is a winner. Your needs may require a differrent tractor.


Happy Shopping and Merry Christmas.
 
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Easytractor. Many of the guys who luv their BX24's, or similar size tractors, do LOTS of mowing. I can imagine that BX's are perfect for this - small enough to manouvre, but big enough to cover a lot of ground. I didn't see mowing on your list. For purely construction/digging/earthmoving etc. you may soon discover you want something bigger. Sometimes there is no substitute for weight and traction, no matter how much time you have to spare. I am near to completing a bunch of projects similar to what you described and I found my old B1550 was only just big enough. The most used attachment for what you describe will probably be a set of forks, so think about how well your tractor will handle those. (Forks attached to a bucket have a MUCH lower lift capacity than the bucket on its own.).

I was also lucky enough to find my machine with a 4in1 bucket. I can't tell you how handy a 4in1 is, especially for demolition, building, and scrub and tree removal.
 
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easytractor said:
John, I will be spreading gravel I need under the new basement floor before the mason's pour concrete, backfill around the addition, move roofing material from my parking area to the building (no rooftop delivery avaliable). Using the machine for general duty to save my back. After the addition is complete working on my parking lot and driveway spreading more gravel (I have bankrun now). Removing some decaying tree stumps along with a few trees to fell. I also have plans to remove an old decaying railroad timber retaing wall and build a replacement retaining wall using landscape block. This wall will be 48" tall maybe 15-20 ft long. After that is complete, Iwill be building a new replacement shed then preparing to build a 2 1/2 car garage. These are the biggest projects I have planned and the other tasks are landscaping projects. What do you think about the bx24 handiling these type of tasks?


Hmmm, All of these tasks are marginal at best with a BX24. It (and it's multicolored cousins of the same size) would be about my last choice. Sure, most of the tasks can be accomplished by a BX given time. Same can be said of a shovel & bucket, I would choose neither if a larger tractor was available. I would buy a used 2wd construction loader/backhoe and invest in a hydraulic thumb (or better buy one with a thumb). Use it to do the tasks and then sell it and buy a BX or B machine for continuing lawn and grounds maintenance activities. But, I am fearless (read stupid) when buying used machines, have a shop full of tools, welders, torches, air compressors etc and a small amount of experience in repair. It's easy to see where less experienced (or smarter!) people would shy away from used. Still, buying a 15,000# TLB for less than a BX does have a certain attraction.


My opinion, shared by some and shunned by others, is that construction tasks are better accomplished with a much larger machine. One item from your list is the movement of roofing materials. The BX's loader will be maxed out with a pallet of shingles and it's lift is too short to get them to the roof. On your 73rd trip up the ladder with a bundle of shingles on your back, you might wonder if the larger tractor would have been worth it. A second area is lifting roof rafters. The BX lift can only get one up 1/2 the distance. Not too handy, if you are wanting them up all the way.

If you don't have the appetite for a used monster, try looking at used tractors in the L3410, L3710, L3830 and larger class with 400-1000 hours. That will be still pretty new, not need repair and be 5-10x the utility of a BX for your first round of tasks. The mid sized L's are also able to mount a belly mower. The same can probably be said of other tractors in the 35-45hp range. For excellent control in tight areas, HST is the usual choice of transmission.

One of the supporting vendors here, Carver Equipment, has lease return tractors and does ship across country. There web site is worth a visit, lots of good info on buying and using tractors.

Sorry to be so long winded, but thought a contrasting view might help you make a more informed decision.


Merry Christmas,
jb
 
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Easy,

Sorry. I take it all back. I don't how I could recommend a BX24 for the simple homeowner tasks that you listed in post #22. Let me change my advise.

For the spreading of gravel under the slab of your 16x32 addition you need a road grader with a 12 foot blade. That way one and a half passes and you'll be done. This will also work on the driveway and parking area, one pass will do here.

To backfill dirt around that addition nothing less than a case 580 backhoe with loader or an 80HP skid steer will do.

To remove the few decaying tree stumps you might use the 580, but no sense wasting time with that puny rig. Go for at least ab 80k pound excavator with hydro thumb. You can use this on your retaining wall too. That 4' by 20' section of rail ties won't have a chance!

For your garage trusses (if you use them). Make sure you get a crane. I've put them in place with 2 guys and a push pole, but the whole time I was wishing for the crane.


Seriously...... It's true that it's no fun trying to do a job with a machine that is not up to the task, but the stuff listed in your recent posts will be a piece of cake for the BX.

If you have bigger tasks than what you list, by all means look at a bigger tractor. If you need a machine to accomplish basic homeowner projects you will be happy.
 
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Again thanks for the feedback. I do have another request. Tommu56 posted pictures of a project he did with his bx23 very impressive. I am a visual type of individual and pictures like tom posted are valuable to help in my decision. If anyone has pictures you can share of building projects, retaining walls, landscaping etc.that are similar to what I have posted I would appreciate your effort. With the "foundation dig" contracted to a professional and snow plowing moved to my pickup, my gut feeling is most of you think the bx is capable of this work. Others have mentioned mowing but I do not have plans to mow. Not much grass. Many have suggested larger equipment but after the first 3 months the building will be complete and I will be on much smaller work. Any comments will be welcome. I will be making a decision soon so I can get on to other decision's involved around materials, contractors and getting everyone committed on paper.
 
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Renob said:
Easy,

Sorry. I take it all back. I don't how I could recommend a BX24 for the simple homeowner tasks that you listed in post #22. Let me change my advise.


Was that "sarcasm"? We don't get much of it around here, so I can never tell.....


;)



By the way, I want to move next to you! Any one that thinks building a roof, building a garage, etc are "simple homeowner tasks" is someone I want close! What flavor of beer should I keep in the fridge?

jb
 
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John Bud,

They call me Mr. Sarcasm around these parts!

The simple stuff I was concetrating on was the spreading of a few yards of gravel, ripping out a 4' x 20' retaining wall and pushing in some dirt around an addition of the size listed.

You correct, a roof job and building a garage are not simple homeowner tasks, but how much are you really going to use the tractor on these projects? Would you by a size/type tractor just so it could lift shingles or trusses to your roof for a one time job?

I do most work around the homestead myself. My wife calls me cheap. Which is true in part, but I am also picky and would just as soon do most things myself to make sure it's right. I guess that I take for granted that I would just do these projects myself, which is not the case for everyone.

By the way, move in next door any time. My two favorite kinds of beer are cold and free!
 
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Ill put this part in for the snow removle. I have 1500' ish of driveway. of which 500 are purely mine. the rest is often done before i am out and about to clear. I have a 74" blower and bucket. I am looking in to a qa plow for when the snow is flying. back/forward draging the bucket for finish/speed is no fun. works well and isnt to bad but would preferr a better way. the blower is great except the 1/2 inch or so left behind so you dont hit gravel. my gravel is rather fine so it has yet to be a problem. probably pinky tip sized or less.

I am hoping to get a 80-90" blade for the front and get piles scooped up for my blower to kick. we had 18" last weekend and the blower was very usefull as a primary. I have also noticed that since it has been packed i dont need the back draging as much. It would cut a bit of time off my work though to have the plow. no truck yet to mount one on :( this is with a 45 hp mind you. i can get about 200' of 4" snow pushed around before i have to look for a dumping spot. I also have hills enough that I need 4wd a fair ammount
 

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