Surveyor rights to access private property in MO

[workinonit]

OK

 

[paulsharvey]

In general, in FLa, yes, they have a reasonable right of entry. With that, they generally are accepted to have rights to minimal line trimming, for the purpose of survey. Chopping a few limbs, minor under growth. We used to cut down stuff upto maybe 4-5" rather than another instrument set up, but only on customer property, or plain "woods", not in a back yard or anything.

So, reasonable right of entry would generally mean foot and vehicle access, but not removing fences or cutting a driving trail, but driving down across a pasture or open field, or rough "yard". Not across crops or finished "yard", but "reasonable" is vague.

Generally we would knock and announce ourselves, although people really should be at work during normal working hours, but its not really a request, its an announcement that we are doing it.

 

[paulsharvey]

This idea of a courtesy call seems nice, but that's not an easy thing to do. You go hunt down a section corner, that might be across a dozen properties to get to, and there isn't just a data base of "contact" numbers. You're not going to spend an hour contacting people over a simple, legal, walk to a property corner.

With that, its also generally less of a fight to just do it, and be gone, then explain to a dozen folks that want to argue or ask questions that are none of their business "who are you working for, what are they building, why are they surveying," or worse "its such a shame old man Jones lived here for 95 years, blah blah"

 

[jk96]

This idea of a courtesy call seems nice, but that's not an easy thing to do. You go hunt down a section corner, that might be across a dozen properties to get to, and there isn't just a data base of "contact" numbers. You're not going to spend an hour contacting people over a simple, legal, walk to a property corner.

With that, its also generally less of a fight to just do it, and be gone, then explain to a dozen folks that want to argue or ask questions that are none of their business "who are you working for, what are they building, why are they surveying," or worse "its such a shame old man Jones lived here for 95 years, blah blah"

In most cases I agree. In this instance they were still working the same job, already had my number from the prior call. They just didn't care.

 

[Eagle1]

This idea of a courtesy call seems nice, but that's not an easy thing to do. You go hunt down a section corner, that might be across a dozen properties to get to, and there isn't just a data base of "contact" numbers. You're not going to spend an hour contacting people over a simple, legal, walk to a property corner.

With that, its also generally less of a fight to just do it, and be gone, then explain to a dozen folks that want to argue or ask questions that are none of their business "who are you working for, what are they building, why are they surveying," or worse "its such a shame old man Jones lived here for 95 years, blah blah"

See, now if you are on my property I'll come and talk to you, Not nasty, ask reasonable question and then since I get bored easy, watch you work until you leave. Maybe ask lots of stupid questions and being annoying. Pretty sure I can hang out on my land. If you parked some place in the way, I'll point you to better place, nothing crazy. Strangers like to park where the dogs bark at the vehicle until it leaves, not pleasant to us. So I would polite request the vehicle is relocate to the side of the house or when we still operated a camp ground do not block a site I can rent out or other paying customer parking.
A simple talk would avoid that, even the tax man has manners and stops to let us know he is here. Can't stop him either but can make it take a lot longer than needed. Nice guy once you know him

 

[dstig1]

I understand that. I'm sure they catch hell all of the time. That's the reason on the 1st occasion when I called the office to see why they were here I told him I did not need to talk to the individuals on the property, just the office. They are only doing what was told of them. It's also the reason the 1st call I told them I only wanted a notification. I did not want to deny them access and make their jobs extremely difficult. It's an easy walk through our property. I just wanted a heads up. Here's an aerial map that gives an idea of the property layout. Blue is our boundary. Red is the property being surveyed. Where our two properties meet is where there are marking the line. As you can see it would be a long hike through timber to get to that line. Just wanted a heads up and don't believe a phone call and or voice message is asking too much.

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Holy Flag Lot, Batman! That has to be the longest "flagpole" I've ever seen!

On a separate note, I think it is awesome that the Florida sate website is called Online Sunshine

 

[paulsharvey]

Now, in FLa, its not as blanket as some think, and I'm sure there are guys that cut fences on "abandoned" properties, leave ruts in your hay field, ect. Some surveyors are careful about what they cut, other are not. What may look like a nasty weedy trash tree, just might be your planted peach tree, ect. The surveyor is responsible for any damages done. I would say 80% of folks dont care, 15% are against Anything happening, from a DG to a neighbor selling, to a road being resurfaced, and about 5% is people actually upset by something the surveyor did that actually wrong them (ran over sprinkler head, cut their shurbs, rutted their lawn, ect)

 

[jk96]

Holy Flag Lot, Batman! That has to be the longest "flagpole" I've ever seen!

On a separate note, I think it is awesome that the Florida sate website is called Online Sunshine

Purchased the pole to go along with the flag so we own all of the access. Not a fan of easements and some of the problems that come with them.

 

[Jstpssng]

Now, in FLa, its not as blanket as some think, and I'm sure there are guys that cut fences on "abandoned" properties, leave ruts in your hay field, ect. Some surveyors are careful about what they cut, other are not. What may look like a nasty weedy trash tree, just might be your planted peach tree, ect. The surveyor is responsible for any damages done. I would say 80% of folks dont care, 15% are against Anything happening, from a DG to a neighbor selling, to a road being resurfaced, and about 5% is people actually upset by something the surveyor did that actually wrong them (ran over sprinkler head, cut their shurbs, rutted their lawn, ect)

Cut the cable to drive down the private road...

 

[buckeyefarmer]

came home from a trip and found this on one of my cameras, and another truck, and a sxs, and a bunch of school kids.... This is my far back yard, along my creek. I keep it mowed as a yard. Before I left on my trip, I had found they had been driving in to string a cable on the power poles for fiber. No asking, no permission. They also did circles in the yard well away from the utility pole. I spoke to them out front, asked if they had an easement (they don't), and told them not to tresspass. Before my trip, I placed a large log across the area where they were coming in, between a hill and the creek. They apparently moved the log, drove across the property with several vehicles to finish hanging their fiber. Surprised they didn't steal the camera, as this guy once looked right at it.

JK96, drove near you on my trip, up and down I29.