Switched from R4's to R1's on my B3200, review and pics

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I finally switched over to R1 ag tires on my B3200 and based on the hour or so I have put on them this afternoon, it was money very well spent. The traction is incredible compared to the R4s, it feels like it increased traction by nearly double.

I picked them up Friday, the dealer had the two rears in stock, they were new but had been on his shelf several years. Fronts had to be order, so I only had to pay shipping on them, which was like $20. My total cost was about $1100, including getting the rears fluid filled. Put them on this afternoon, only took about 30min so it wasn't a bad job. I'm going to keep the R4's and get them foam filled for demolition work, bush hogging thorn trees, etc.

Here's a couple comparisons of the Ags vs the Industrials. As you can see they are a good bit taller, and also a little narrower than the R4s. The fronts are 180/85-12 (7-12) and the rears are 12.4-16

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Mounted up:

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More pics forthcoming...
 
   / Switched from R4's to R1's on my B3200, review and pics #2  
I am getting ready to put my filled R1s on my 2920 for the winter . From your post it seems like it wasn't too hard ?
 
   / Switched from R4's to R1's on my B3200, review and pics
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So once I got them on I immediately headed to the back of the farm for a little bit of excavating. I was amazed at how much easier it filled the bucket with these tires vs the R4s. I dug this in less than 5min.

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Excellent pulling traction, full load of dirt:

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Next I headed back to an overgrown field, pushed out a few small trees and cleaned up the entrance to another field:

Couple of different trees I up rooted, just took one push about 4-5' up the trunk to get them over, then engaged the teeth in the root ball and pushed them out:

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Here's a before and after pic, about 20min later:

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Overall I'm very impressed with this new setup. I can't wait to try them out this winter in the snow and mud. I'll update this thread in a couple months when it's time for hauling out firewood and plowing snow. :thumbsup:
 
   / Switched from R4's to R1's on my B3200, review and pics
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I am getting ready to put my filled R1s on my 2920 for the winter . From your post it seems like it wasn't too hard ?

With a good floor jack it was easy. Break all the lug nuts loose, then just jack it up to the right height so the tire is barely on the ground. Remove the lug nuts/bolts, lean the wheel out and roll it away. Move the new tire into place adjust the jack, lean it on the studs and install the nuts/bolts. If I had an air impact it would have been even quicker.
 
   / Switched from R4's to R1's on my B3200, review and pics #5  
I am thinking I should have gotten real tires (R1s) when I bought my bx2360...I regret buying the industrials but man at that price I will have to suck it up. I was concerned the R1s would leave ruts in the lawn but now that I have some seat time I realise the only ruts i am making in the hard clay around here is when I spin the tires which would mean the R1s would probobly be kinder to the grass
 
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I am thinking I should have gotten real tires (R1s) when I bought my bx2360...I regret buying the industrials but man at that price I will have to suck it up. I was concerned the R1s would leave ruts in the lawn but now that I have some seat time I realise the only ruts i am making in the hard clay around here is when I spin the tires which would mean the R1s would probobly be kinder to the grass

I think R1s for a Bx are only $400 or so from what I have read on here.

I actually went and did some figure 8's in the yard just to see how bad these tires are on grass and they weren't too bad. Granted this is good established sod and it was dry, but they only left a few little marks on the turns, really no worse than my R4s. Now if I didn't have the loader on and was swinging a big finishing mower around on the back that might have made things worse.
 
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I have AGs (R1's) on my 3400, and for what they're meant to do, which is field work, they're ideal. Not so good around the yard when the ground isn't bone dry. They'll leave some nasty tracks.

I have to plan to move all my implements I need to use during the wet part of the year to an area I can get to them without driving across the yard.

Having said that, I'm glad I opted for them and not the R4's.

Enjoy the grip !!

Sean
 
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Having said that, I'm glad I opted for them and not the R4's.

When I bought my tractor I wanted R1's, but the one on the lot had R4s (along with every other B3200/B3030 within a 100mi radius). The dealer was insistent that these were the tires I wanted and they would work great. I should have waited and had them get a set of R1s on it before I bought it. Oh well, now I have a couple different options. I think the R4s once foam filled will be a great addition for demolition and cleanup work.
 
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Man, your making me wish I had a set of R1's on my B3200 :(
 
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Are the fronts load rated high enough for your loader ?
Many are NOT !

The thing I find a little "questionable" is your claim that you can now push over trees - implying that before you couldn't ?

Now a B3200 is still a B3200 and weighs about what a B3200 weighs.
I doubt that it's ability to push over trees just by leaning on them increases THAT MUCH as a function of rear tire pattern.
{saplings, maybe}

What little tree pushing I have done has been with the tractor stationary, i.e. by bringing the bucket down the trunk, not by driving forwards.
When the front of the tractor rears up things are a little more under control this way than if I were driving "over" the tree.
Things can still get "hairy", but I think the risk of forces getting off center are less.

BTW, I can get 43% more ballast in the R4s than in the R1s and they are tougher around roots and rocks - obviously I am not SOLD on ALL the virtues of R1s (-:
 

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