TC45A and Tn60A prices

[MARKV33598]

I will be purchasing a new tractor here in the next few weeks and am interested if these prices sound good to you folks.
1) TC45A , 2WD, dual rear remotes, flex end links, 12X12 SSS trans, and Ag tires. Locally $14900 + 2.5% tax.
2) TN60A Standard, 2WD, dual rear remotes, flex end links, 12X12 SSS trans, and Ag tires. Locally $17975 +2.5% tax.

I am looking to replace my ol blue 3600 diesel. I do not need the fancy bells and whistles but do want dependability. I have been buying parts from the local NH dealer for 4 years now and they are very helpful and nice but they are the only show in town for NH products.

 

[jinman]

Mark, I bet you could search the whole New Holland forums and not see many places where anyone bought a new 2WD tractor. If they fit your needs, I'd say your prices look pretty good to me. I'd lean toward the TN60A if I were making the decision. For only about $3,000 more, you are getting a whole step up in weight and size. If you decide at sometime in the future to add a loader, you will be able to do that with the heavier tractor and have much better performance. In addition, you will be able to pull a baler and do so much more with the TN than the TC. I think the TCs fit the compact utility description very well. If you are primarily ag in use, I'd go with the TN in a heartbeat. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

 

[MARKV33598]

Why do you suppose everyone buys 4WD tractors. My NH dealer has 3 2WD out of the 60+ Tractors on the lot. He looked at me like i was crazy when I told him 2WD but then admittidly told me most people who buy 4WD don't need it that NH has them push the 4WD. My 3600 is 2WD and I have only had it stuck twice and that is because I was in a 6' deep ditch I should not have been in with a bush hog, buryied her to the axles but 4WD would have done nothing here. My neighbor came over with his Deutz and had me out in no time. The other time I almost flipped it into a ditch. My property gets pretty soupy at times and my 47 Farmall will walk the dog now. I can see 4WD for someone who does alot of loader work but for the home owner with some acreage they have been running 2WD loaders since they had a string to trip the bucket. I myself can not justify the extra cost in tires and 4WD for my purchase. What exactly do all of these people use there 4WD for. I have nothing against 4WD, I own a 4WD truck, but with gearing as low as you can go on a tractor what is the benefit to 4WD.

 

[jinman]

Mark, I wouldn't own a compact with loader and not have 4WD. Most of the owners here are small farmers, hobby farmers, and homeowners. They buy loaders and 4WD gives them far better performance with their FELs. I've owned both types of tractors and you could never convince me to buy another tractor with loader without 4WD.

I also have lots of rough terrain that I go up and down. The problem with 2WD is that you only have 2WD braking. If my tractor is in 4WD and I apply the rear brakes, the front wheels also brake through the drivetrain. So if I have a load in the FEL and my rear tires can't hold going down a hill, I still won't lose control because my front wheels will hold.

Climbing and pulling uphill is also better with 4WD. You just get better traction. I don't know what to add here because it's an obvious advantage in 4WD.

Mud? I don't think any tractor handles mud very well. Your description of getting stuck probably is about the same for either tractor.

If you don't want 4WD, I don't see a problem. You obviously know what works for you. Having a 2WD tractor is sure a lot better than no tractor. Many, many acres have been farmed with 2WD tractors. I do think you would like the TN series better because it is so much heavier and stonger. So if a 2WD TN works for you, I think that's the tractor you should buy. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

 

[MARKV33598]

Thanks Jinman, I can see how this would help up and down hills with heavy loads, 4 wheel braking would definately be a nice option that I could see paying for itself for folks with hilly property.

 

[AndyMA]

I have a TN and to swtch from 2wd to 4wd is the flip of a rocker switch. There are many times I go nowhere in 2wd and the minute i switch to 4wd I go with no problems. During all most every operation I do , I need to flip into 4wd. I suppose locking the rear differential would pull me through many times. On my TN when I flip the electro hydro differential lock it locks up both axles( and pushed like a mule). Unless I was pulling wagons and mowing fairly flat land I would definately go 4wd. New Holland says that 4wd is also more fuel effieient. Just my thoughts.

Andy

 

[ThistleKop]

Mark,
To each his own. I have more time than money. I go back to the days of farming with horses. I've operated equipment on terrain that was quite hilly. Super C Farmall, Super M Farmall, not exactly rough terrain tractors but by planning and good judgment one can stay out of trouble. Still keep up 135 acres and a cow/calf operation with an Allis 175 with fel. To this point have not owned a 4wd tractor. I have the Dodge 2500 w/ the Cummins to help me out of trouble /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

TK

 

[Dargo]

Not only do dealers not stock but perhaps 1 or 2% two wheel drive tractors, but if you ever go to trade a "modern" tractor and it is 2wd, it is a pink elephant. It would sort of be like buying a car without A/C. If that is what you want, go for it. However, when you go to get rid of it, remember, 99% of the people will not be in the market for what you have. I personally couldn't imagine spending the money a new tractor costs and not get 4 wheel drive. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif I could give you several hundred instances of where I have been stuck in 2 wheel drive and used 4 wheel drive. To me, I'd rather try to hang wall paper with one arm than use a 2 wheel drive tractor. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif I sure would really think that one through.

 

[MARKV33598]

WELL HERE'S THE THING FELLAS... I DON'T PLAN ON TRADING IN OR UPGRADING IN THE FUTURE. I AM LOOKING FOR A TRACTOR THAT CAN OUTLAST ME. I DON'T FEEL I NEED 4WD, A/C, TOP AND TILT OR ANY OF THAT STUFF. MY 3600 FORD IS ABOUT AS BASIC AS IT GETS, ONE REMOTE AND A REAR LOCKER. I TOLD THE SALESMAN I WANTED AS CLOSE TO A 3600 AS POSSIBLE. I AM COMFORTABLE GETTING ON AND OFF THE TRACTOR ADJUSTING THE TOP LINK AND DON'T REALLY NEED THE DELUXE 3PT HITCH BUT THEY ARE GOING TO THROW IN THE FLEX END LINKS. I CAN APPRECIATE THIS AS SOME IMPLEMENTS THAT ARE NOT ON LEVEL GROUND CAN BE A REAL PAIN TO HOOK UP BY YOUR SELF. ALSO THE PARKING BRAKE IS SOMETHING I HAVE NEVER EXPERIENCED ON A TRACTOR. MY 3600 NEEDS A VALVE JOB AND RE-RINGED AND IT WOULD BE GOOD AS NEW WHICH IS WHY I AM NOT TRADING IT IN FOR THE $3000 OFFERED. I JUST WANT A NEW TRACTOR THAT NEEDS NO TINKERING TO GET RUNNING WHERE I CAN JUMP ON IT AND MOW OR DISC OR FIX THE DRIVEWAY AND I FIGURED NOW IS AS GOOD A TIME AS ANY. I STILL USE MY F-CUB WITH SICKLE BAR MOWER TO CUT THE DITCHES AND WILL CONTINUE TO USE THE 3600 BUT I WOULD LIKE TO PURCHASE NOW THE TRACTOR MY KIDS AND GRANDKIDS WILL BE USING.

 

[Dargo]

Hey, if you're happy, go for it! In all seriousness, you work as hard as the next guy for your money, so you should darn well buy exactly what you want. I only offered up my opinion (yeah, everybody has one...just like you know what) on the hundreds of times that 4 wheel drive has saved my butt on my tractor. I'm aware that only fairly recently 4 wheel drive tractors have dominated the market and there can be an arguement that 2 wheel drive tractors worked fine until then. One can also say that in the history of mankind, the automobile has only been around for a relatively short time, and man survived fine without the auto as well. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif Bottom line, work for the best price at a dealer you like, and buy what you like.