Test drove a Dodge Ram 2500 Cummins Today

   / Test drove a Dodge Ram 2500 Cummins Today #41  
If only Peterbilt and Kenworth made pickup trucks; then we'd have more choice of what gets put on the truck.
Sterling did that for a little while but the downfall of HD truck sales killed that. They set out to put together the best all-around HD truck and found it by just re-badging the Dodge RAM trucks. :D

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   / Test drove a Dodge Ram 2500 Cummins Today #42  
Here are a few points about Dodge that might help:

In 2003 with the new body style change, called the third generation, Dodge went to AAM axles. These are very good axles and are available in 4.10, 3.73, and now, 3.42.

The best mileage comes from the trucks built before Jan 1, 2004. These are called '04 model and come with up to 305 HP in the HO (high output) model. There is also an SO (standard Output) model that was mainly in '03 and for California. These also have a five speed manual instead of the six speed, lighter duty axles and catalytic converters. The '03 and '04 HO models have no cat. After Jan 1 they are called '04.5 and have a catalytic converter and different fuel programming. The mileage dropped by about 1.5 MPG. When the 6.7 engine came out with the particulate filter and all the stuff associated with it, the mileage went way down. But the 6.7s come with the new 6 speed auto that everybody loves. This is a Dodge tranny. The chassis cab models with the 6.7 come with an Aisin 6 speed auto that is also a very good and rugged tranny.

I have an '04 with 200,000 miles on it. The main problem area has been the front suspension. Namely, the ball joints, U joints, linkage and track bar bushings. These have all been upgrade by now and work well. I also installed manual locking hubs on mine.

With the third gens you can add lots of power with a simple programmer that can also improve the mileage. Some programmers are way better than others and they work in different ways. Throughout the third gen category, there have been a lot of small refinements, so a liitle research goes a long way in knowing what to expect and how to deal with it. Mine, for instance had a weak lift pump that failed. I changed to a completely different design and have been fine since.

The mileage computer and display are notoriously innacurate. It works by computing vehicle speed, fuel pressure and the amount of time the injectors are energized. When you see a mileage number that is extremely high, as mentioned in an earlier post, it is because the truck is coasting, the computer has been reset and the injection is actually off. The mileage at that instantaneous point is almost infinite, although it is the overall average that counts. Sitting and running in the driveway is zero mileage. Pulling onto the highway might be 5 MPG. Light throttle on level ground might be 24 MPG. It all makes sense. But the readings, on average, will be a mile or two off. It's mainly good to show trends and comparisons with other trips.

The one thing that has been consistent with the Cummins is it's long life, extreme towing ability and reliability. Before buying another brand be sure you do some research into that particluar engine's general history! A good example is the Ford Power Stroke which came in different dispalcements and was changed in various years. Some have been VERY bad and some have been good. Beware. Chevy Duramax engines had some bugs in the beginning , but seem to be doing fine now. One thing though, the serviceability and simplicity of the Cummins is impossible to beat compared to a V8 with a central turbo. Ford pickups require the removal of the entire cab to work on relatively simple engine problems! With the Dodge you just reach in a do it. Turbo, injectors, starter, injection pump, etc. HUGE difference.
 
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   / Test drove a Dodge Ram 2500 Cummins Today #43  
The '03 and '04 HO models have no cat.
No CC's started in 98 1/2 with the introduction of the VP44 pump.

I know for sure it was that way till 02, and I might be wrong but I thought CC's came back in 03
 
   / Test drove a Dodge Ram 2500 Cummins Today #44  
The mileage computer and display are notoriously innacurate.
Not true.

Never found mine more than 1/2 mile off, figured the computer just hasn't caught up with my foot yet.
 
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   / Test drove a Dodge Ram 2500 Cummins Today #45  
Those on board fuel mileage guages are pretty much useless. They are little more than electronic vacuum guages in most cases. I've seen this in other Dodge Pickups. Not speaking for all brands though.
I have an 04.5 Dodge and love it. Mileage computer has not done what you describe and is off, but consistently, could be with the tire size selection. I bought the engine and took the truck that came with it. Have had minor issues but none with the engine. Still happy as I can tow what I want, when I want.
 
   / Test drove a Dodge Ram 2500 Cummins Today #46  
Willl,

Many earlier models came with catalytic converters. My buddy has a '96 with one. It's not related to the VP44 injection pump.

I was refering to the third gens when I mentioned the cat. No cat on the '03 and '04 HO models. But the SO models do have them. Anything built after Dec 31, 2003 is an '04.5 and has the cat. The '04 models were only built between about August 2003 and Dec 31, 2003. The later '04 models are refered to as '04.5 and were built until about July 2004.

The cat is not a mileage killer on the Cummins. In the '04.5 and later models it's the fuel programming that hurts them. But the cat must be left on for smog checks and makes the exhaust temps a bit higher at the turbo inlet.
 
   / Test drove a Dodge Ram 2500 Cummins Today #48  
Sterling did that for a little while but the downfall of HD truck sales killed that. They set out to put together the best all-around HD truck and found it by just re-badging the Dodge RAM trucks. :D

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Maybe the Sterling Bullet got closer to the uniqueness of a Pete, KW or Freightliner; but it still was a re-badged Dodge.

Wouldn't it be nice to get a heave duty pickup from Ford with a choice of Cummins or PowerStroke engines, Allison, Aisin, or Ford trannies, etc, etc.
 
   / Test drove a Dodge Ram 2500 Cummins Today #49  
Recheck your info, you won't find a CC from 98.5-02.

I have a 98.5 and no CC. I was getting 20mpg on hwy two years ago, the last time I used straight diesel from the pump. Ever since the low sulfur fuel came out, I slowly started having trouble starting my truck once it was warmed up. When the ultra low fuel started being produced, it wouldn't start at all.

Fortunate for me, this was the same time diesel was over $4.00/gal. I started making my own biodiesel to save money and the engine loved it. It turns on in a split second and haven't had any problems with the engine since. My mileage did drop some. If I run b100, I get about 15mpg. If I run a mixture, mileage does improve. I try to keep it at B70 and get about 18 mpg.
 
   / Test drove a Dodge Ram 2500 Cummins Today #50  
I have a 98.5 and no CC.
To which I bet your running the VP44 injector pump.

Keep an eye on that 'lift pump pressure', aint no BS here, gauge it or put a low pressure monitor on it.
 

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